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« Reply #135 on: February 10, 2012, 06:26:08 AM »

Dont know where to post, but this German site shows comparisons in Serie A to market value of players squad e.g, and that is one thing that we have built such a unit compared to others and a a  real force this season!!!  (with its usual exceptions )
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/serie-a/startseite/wettbewerb_IT1.html

THANKS FOR THAT SEASON AND MOMENTS, EDY!!! THANKS FOR THE POSSIBILITY TO SHOW MY PRIDE IN THIS COUNTRY!!! Anybody in Germany interested in football is somehow following us, many friends of mine and share their respect! The Derby, the Miro, Milan win, unexpected CL contenders, great games, yesterday!
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« Reply #136 on: February 10, 2012, 08:36:09 AM »

i saw his interview last night,he said the team deserve to have a statue in honour of the way they have performed this season.
 the man deserves the freedom of rome,a true lazio man.   
                               
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« Reply #137 on: February 12, 2012, 02:32:39 PM »

Anyone finding it ironic that all of a sudden everything has turned positive from the fans to the results with regards to Reja?


Like the death threats have stopped…the fans are cheering him??   All is forgotten.

Simeone comes out and says it’s a matter of time before he coaches Lazio…Lazio goes and beats Milan for the first in 14 years? Makes a miracle come-back down 0-2 with 10 men vs Cesena?

These were just things that you couldn’t count on last year with roughly the same squad minus Klose Lulic and Marchetti. 

I’ve never boasted Reja as a good/bad coach.  I have disagreed with his tactical approach many a times.  Imper refers him to a mister “misto” tactician.  Meaning he just throws everything he’s got in a pot like when you’re making a sugo or pastina with broth.  Why is it that it’s working all of a sudden?

I have come to the conclusion that Reja works best when given less.  He’s a pure motivator.  No tactical awareness just raw emotion.  Similar to how he saved us from the embarrassment of relegation in 2009-2010.  Down to 1 healthy striker in the team I’ve never seen the squad perform better in the last 4 years since our famous run to the Coppa Italia when Zarate was in outstanding form. 

Now how ironic would it be that the man (Reja) who pretty much every fan has despised from one time or another during his tenure here guides us to a 3rd place finish…Followed by him not renewing his contract and essentially resigning at the end of the year as if to say “TÉ!” (with the arm extended) to the fans and journalistic critics.

I think it is a reflection of 2 things.  Reja wants to return the favour to the critics, while Lotito doesn’t want anyone to become bigger than the club.

Just recently Lotito has cut off any chance of potential idol worship at Lazio.  He loaned out Zarate a formidable fan favourite while bringing in Cisse  a so called proven winner.  Cisse has a massive impact with the fans.  He underperforms and Lotito sells him while avoiding bringing in another potential idol in Honda.

The likelihood that another potential idol in Simeone coming to coach this club as he said “is only a matter of time” is a good a chance as Paolo Di Canio ever returning in some stature to this club.  Hell would have to freeze over before Lott-o let either of these things happen 

Mark my words, Gasperini will become his next puppet in June.  Just watch...     




 

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« Reply #138 on: February 12, 2012, 02:51:03 PM »

^^ He's a classic minestraro coach - he does what he can with what he does. Unlike Gasperini who has a very distinctive style of play (i.e. 3-5-2). I think Reja may be tired of the constant what have you done for me lately attitude of fans, but I also think he's getting a little old for the rigours of serie A coaching. I also think it's not out of the question that Reja would accept another management position in the club. I would love to have Simeone on the bench. He's accumulated a fair bit of experience now and I think he'd be very good with the younger players. boh?

Gasperini would be like getting Ballardini back. A complete and utter disaster. Three steps back in my opinion.
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« Reply #139 on: February 12, 2012, 02:52:30 PM »

I wouldn't go so far as to say Reja has terrible tactics.. but sometimes they're questionable. He has been doing an awesome job this season overall though but has had some slip ups like any other coach. I love coaches who are great motivators. Great coaches are great tacticians and great motivators and if one of those pieces are missing the coach won't last very long.
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« Reply #140 on: February 12, 2012, 05:35:49 PM »

I wouldn't go so far as to say Reja has terrible tactics.. but sometimes they're questionable. He has been doing an awesome job this season overall though but has had some slip ups like any other coach. I love coaches who are great motivators. Great coaches are great tacticians and great motivators and if one of those pieces are missing the coach won't last very long.

I would def. say terrible.  How many times has he really got it right?  The Derby? vs Milan? Surely not last week vs Cesena.  Putting on Kozak was a desperate move that paid off.  

Tactics wise, Reja is no better than an EPL coach.  I still blame him for 50% of Cisse's inability to score more.  That was a tactical issue.  Claims the almighty Cisse of course.

I do feel the fans are taking more sympathy on Zio edy now.  They realize that the true incompitants are Lott-o Max and Ugly Tare.  They can't possibly jeer a man with 1 healthy striker at his disposal.  
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« Reply #141 on: February 12, 2012, 09:57:42 PM »

I cant believe this is even a discussion point and the doubt of reja that i seem to see a bit staggers me. We are 3rd in serie a without spending, spending and spending and taking on and matching it with quality teams like udinese, milan, inter and roma (despite their troubles at the moment). Our team is decimated with probably one maybe two strikers who are fit enough to get out there and each part of the ground having reasonable fitness issues.  I am proud where we are at and I hope we keep going. We deserve champions league and lets hope the boys can bring that achievement to the fans! 
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« Reply #142 on: February 13, 2012, 05:22:39 AM »

I have to agree with flying eagle, what more could Reja really have done with the resources at his disposal?  I know we are all armchair fans who can't understand for example how Zauri gets within 10 miles of a football pitch, but really since he took charge we have done remarkably well.  I would like someone on here to give me another Lazio manager who has done better with the equivalent resources?  Rossi?  Did ok in the cups, but we only did well in the league one season when there was no Juventus.  Eriksson was actually terrible when you consider how much money was spent and how we only just won the Scudetto.  When you look at how much Riomma, Napoli and Inter have all spent, we are having such a better season than all of them, and we've actually managed to already win the derby and beat Milan.  Not to mention still be in the Europa League.  I think we are definately better off without Cisse, it will give Kozak more space and he is a fighter, his goals per game is about 1 every 100 mins!  No manager gets it right 100% of the time, but Zio Edy is doing a fine job in my book.
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« Reply #143 on: February 13, 2012, 05:58:22 AM »

Does he still with us next season???
Or maybe Lotito will let him go and replace him with another younger coach like gasperini. 
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« Reply #144 on: February 13, 2012, 03:56:41 PM »

It burns me when I see Diakite on the bench and Zauri/Scaloni/Garrido on the field instead. That pisses me off and the other teams always always always exploit those wings which makes Lazio choke up many points. It was proven last season Diakite is adequate playing as a Right Back, yet Reja still wants his shit on the field. That pisses me off a lot, as if Siviglia Cribari werent a lesson learned enough.

Yet we still have to trace back and think to ourselves that Lazio went from relegation zone to a constant Champions League contender overnight it seems. We can easily be in the same ball park as Viola Genoa Palermo, but I'm proud to say that we are among the leaders of Serie A and this is solely a job done by Edy Reja. He doesnt have a Lavezzi Cavani Hamsik or a Sneijder Pazzini Milito, but he has inconsistant (aside from Klose) but capable players and he is doing better than these teams with huge talent.  Overall, he is doing a fine job, but some logical thinking has to continue like my example in the first paragraph or taking off Hernanes and putting on a defender when we are losing and saying after the game it was a tactical decision. Other than that, I'm happy Lazio has found Reja
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« Reply #145 on: February 13, 2012, 08:05:11 PM »

He probably would have played Diakite in the last game had Diakite not picked up a red card against Genoa. I understand the nostalgia of having Simeone as coach but he doesn't have near the success that Reja's shown. If Reja can make things work with this team I'd really like to see what he's capable if we can beef up the team some more with some stronger players. Something tells me that he won't be with us next season and he'll probably be off to Inter who's probably desperate to get rid of Ranieri now.
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« Reply #146 on: February 14, 2012, 08:05:17 AM »

It burns me when I see Diakite on the bench and Zauri/Scaloni/Garrido on the field instead. That pisses me off and the other teams always always always exploit those wings which makes Lazio choke up many points. It was proven last season Diakite is adequate playing as a Right Back, yet Reja still wants his shit on the field. That pisses me off a lot, as if Siviglia Cribari werent a lesson learned enough.


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I'm totally agree with you about this point. We dont have good back up for wing back. Why does reja always put zauri, scaloni n garrido when konko n radu cant play?? Diakite is a kind of center back who likes to overlap and help the team in attack. Although he doesnt have good crossing, but he is fast and stronger than those "pathetic three". I always think Diakite is our phil jones. Beside that, we have stanke who is naturally a wing back, with the bad tackle that he has, I think he is better to play in right back as konko's back up. 
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« Reply #147 on: February 14, 2012, 12:48:20 PM »

I understand the nostalgia of having Simeone as coach but he doesn't have near the success that Reja's shown. If Reja can make things work with this team I'd really like to see what he's capable if we can beef up the team some more with some stronger players. Something tells me that he won't be with us next season and he'll probably be off to Inter who's probably desperate to get rid of Ranieri now.

If success is measured in titles then Simeone is better then Edy.
Simeone - Argentine champion 2006 with Estudiantes
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Reja has done well for us but in the summer a change is needed. I'm leaning towards Simeone. He has done well so far, winning a league title in Argentina, helping Catania survive relegation, and now he is doing well with Atletico. Interesting game coming up, Edy vs Diego..
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« Reply #148 on: February 14, 2012, 03:40:18 PM »

My thread starter was not a hate forum for Reja.  I don't hate the man.  I just don't think he's a good coach.  I think he's a great motivator.

He's been out-duel’d by coaches of lesser stature way too many times over 3 years.

I just wanted to point out that just like when we were fighting for relegation; he tends to get the most out of a depleted squad rather than a "beefed" up one as Latius would say.

I think Lotito armed him with some key players this year.  Surely a deeper team than last year but he didn't seem to turn a corner with results/or fans for that matter until we got rid of 5 players and brought in 1.  There are more people now who realize they feel sorry for Reja instead of hating on him for his often mind boggling subs or his lack of desire to kill games off. 

I really do believe he'll be gone come the summer.  I just hope it's not Gasperini on deck to fill his shoes.  I would walk to Rome however for Benitez who is still unemployed.  He touched on Thursday's encounter today saying this:
«Credo che con l’arrivo di Simeone la squadra sia diventata più aggressiva, più attiva sotto l’aspetto del pressing. Difendono in modo più ordinato, hanno pareggiato questo fine settimana contro il Santander e credo che tuttavia stiano giocando un buon calcio e si trovino in un buon momento di forma». Ma anche la Lazio non è da meno e la sua classifica in un campionato difficile come quello italiano ne è la conferma: «La Lazio sta facendo ottime cose, come il terzo posto in Serie A nonostante il trasferimento di Cisse che ha fatto discutere, così come anche il suo arrivo ha fatto discutere visto che non ha lasciato un’impronta indelebile».

"I believe that with the arrival of Simeone the team has become more aggressive, and more active under the aspect of pressing. Defending in a more orderly fashion when they drew this weekend against Santander and I think they are playing good football and are in a good form. But Lazio is no different and its hard to rank in a league like the Italian one in this assumption: Lazio is doing good things, lthird place in Serie A despite the transfer of Cisse that made people talk, just like his arrival did not discuss since it has left an undeniable mark. "


 
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« Reply #149 on: February 14, 2012, 05:22:04 PM »

My thread starter was not a hate forum for Reja.  I don't hate the man.  I just don't think he's a good coach.  I think he's a great motivator.

He's been out-duel’d by coaches of lesser stature way too many times over 3 years.

I just wanted to point out that just like when we were fighting for relegation; he tends to get the most out of a depleted squad rather than a "beefed" up one as Latius would say.

I think Lotito armed him with some key players this year.  Surely a deeper team than last year but he didn't seem to turn a corner with results/or fans for that matter until we got rid of 5 players and brought in 1.  There are more people now who realize they feel sorry for Reja instead of hating on him for his often mind boggling subs or his lack of desire to kill games off. 

I really do believe he'll be gone come the summer.  I just hope it's not Gasperini on deck to fill his shoes.  I would walk to Rome however for Benitez who is still unemployed.  He touched on Thursday's encounter today saying this:
«Credo che con l’arrivo di Simeone la squadra sia diventata più aggressiva, più attiva sotto l’aspetto del pressing. Difendono in modo più ordinato, hanno pareggiato questo fine settimana contro il Santander e credo che tuttavia stiano giocando un buon calcio e si trovino in un buon momento di forma». Ma anche la Lazio non è da meno e la sua classifica in un campionato difficile come quello italiano ne è la conferma: «La Lazio sta facendo ottime cose, come il terzo posto in Serie A nonostante il trasferimento di Cisse che ha fatto discutere, così come anche il suo arrivo ha fatto discutere visto che non ha lasciato un’impronta indelebile».

"I believe that with the arrival of Simeone the team has become more aggressive, and more active under the aspect of pressing. Defending in a more orderly fashion when they drew this weekend against Santander and I think they are playing good football and are in a good form. But Lazio is no different and its hard to rank in a league like the Italian one in this assumption: Lazio is doing good things, lthird place in Serie A despite the transfer of Cisse that made people talk, just like his arrival did not discuss since it has left an undeniable mark. "


 


BENITEZ???  I hope you dont want to tell, that Rafa should ever take a step into Formello?! IMO: NEEEEEEEEVEEEEER!!!!
I have watched him since Liverpools arrival (as Cisse got there also back then) and IF one coach is overrated, then its DEFINATELY BENITEZ!
One good spell at Valencia, the best of the rest and having a lucky season! CL title with Pool: pure luck! FA cup: pure luck! Everytime comeback wins with great individual perfomrances of the likes of Gerrard and Caragher ... I HATE him and everyone has seen, what he can: at Inter and I knew that! IF ANYONE HASNT A CLUE on tactics, its RAFA! For sure!

Ill walk all the way to formello to cut his throat if that would come true for one reason: to protect us from that stupidity! What decisions would he had done here this season compared to Reja?!?! Or Rossi, Zaccheroni! THEN everybody would see, what achievements Reja made here with our Lazio!
At the start we really lacked some tactics in offense, but cmon..Cisse, Lulic, Klose new, Hernanes Ledesma totally out of form and Gonzo Sculli as right offs ... what to epect from a coach then?! And we do not have to behave like prophets and say: oh, that one substitutions was a fault!  Thats simply ridiculous!

Who of you have ever COACHED mature beings on "nearly" a professional level? higher amateur class?? Who would have a hack on what does it mean to train mature sports elite players, wokr with them, tell them every footstep to take and get even respect for professional knowledge?! He is "just" a motivator?!  That boys like Klose and Hernanes arent disabled?! Cmon guys!
For sure, Reja is no Clausewitz, nor Mourinho, but one of the best coaches in Italy! And nobody would listen to a motivator who does not have a clue in terms of professional football knowledge and tactical knowledge...
Making faults, wrong decision, that has nothing to do with having no idea of something...

If Reja goes this summer, it would be VERY sad! Why? Not because I like him and what he has done to us! Because its just to early! WHO could replace him to LEAD the most important project for the next years and into the next stage! Definately no Benitez (only if he gets Tevez and Philip Lahm or something, and NO Gasperini, nobody on the market I know to be available! Simeone isnt available though! Mihajilovic isnt good enough...Who??? The only one good enough are Dino Zoff or Lippi, but they are as old as Reja and would only be the short term solution.
To wait, until someone is available!

Oh my,...I am scared of what Lotito could think of?!
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