imperatorlativm
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« on: August 07, 2011, 07:00:59 AM » |
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I think we've got a good enough look at personnel that we can have a serious discussion about what this team should/could look like. It's clear that straight 4-4-2 is a complete disaster, so forget that. When we picked up Cisse and Klose, I figured we were going with two strikers - but that hasn't worked as well as anyone would have liked and after the Cluj match, it's obvious that this team thrives in a 4-2-3-1. But now we've got a glut of strikers and we're going to have to push either Cisse or Zarate back to the mezz'ala position. Zarate was only partly effective in that position last year, and while Cisse seems to have the Then again, hernanes flanked by two of Mauri, Cisse and Zarate, behind Klose sounds quite nice and if it could be made to work, you'd have to figure it could be dynamite. But how long can we wait for it to start working?
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 12:02:48 PM » |
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Theres no reason a 4312 shouldn't work. Reja uses it one game then gets discouraged and switches back. If he keeps doing that than obviously its going to look like shit. Keep practicing with the same formation.. fuck 4231
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Peruzzi
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 12:48:37 PM » |
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I think 4.2.3.1 works, as when we are attacking it kind of turns into a 3 up front anyway, as Zarate and Mauri (or whoever plays) support Klose and cut inside a bit.
But I think Reja should give the 4.3.1.2 more of a chance, as we have alot of strikers and it will be hard to keep them all happy, and I think its always best to play with 2 strikers.
If we are to play 1 up front though, I hope its Klose, with Zarate, Hernanes and Mauri behind him, and Rocchi coming from the bench if need be. Klose finishing is very sharp, and Rocchi showed last season he can still cut it for 20, 30 mins a game.
Fuck Cisse, he can keep the bench warm.
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imperatorlativm
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 01:48:20 PM » |
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The problem with 4-3-1-2 is that it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on Hernanes particularly when a team plays with a strong defensive midfield. It also doesn't really suit Klose. In fact, I suspect the reason we got Klose, is to play as the 3-1 up top in the first place. You'd have to assume Cisse and zarate will be used as attacking wingers. And frankly, I don't like zarate as the lone striker anyway, I think if he listens and learns he could be much more effective as an attacking winger where he will be able to make mazy runs and open spaces. Remember also that when il capitano returned last year, he did well precisely because he tends to be a more clinical finisher. With Klose and Rocchi and Kozak as front men, I think we have the personnel for that position. So either Floccari has to go, or you could loan out Kosak and keep FLoccari another year - but imo Kozak would learn loads from Klose and it's a risk to expect to sell Floccari next year.
Where I don't feel confortable is in our options at CB. We need another starter desperately because of numbers (of games we will play) , and imo, I don't know if Biava can replicate last year's form. Playing Radu as a CB is ok, but he shines at terzino and we have three competitions, so it doesn't make sense to overuse him either. I'm also not completely comfortable in the midfield because we have no real option for Hernanes (could be Mauri, but not as good imo and then, it's the same problem as using Radu at CB).
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 04:12:20 PM » |
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There is pressure on Hernanes in that set up but with Mauri, or another attack minded midfielder within that three man midfield behind then the pressure is somewhat eased. I like 4-3-1-2 simply because it bridges midfield and attack while also allowing a solid three man midfield infront of the back line. Also, with this in mind the wing backs can get forward with decent cover remaining in the midfield. Given our lack of goal scoring up front last season I'd be surprised if Reja does not go with this formation given that two forwards have already arrived this summer and none have left, even if Floccari is likely to.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 07:11:15 PM » |
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4-3-1-2 like this perhaps?  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 11:07:54 AM » |
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If Reja want play with 4-4-2, maybe this is good option:  Give more chance for 'Tata' Gonzales.  |
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Peruzzi
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 12:37:08 PM » |
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I think its more than likely we will see this...  Im happy with that to be honest. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 03:51:18 PM » |
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In Peruzzi's formation (nice graphic, btw) can Cana play in Matuzalem or Ledesma's position or is he more of a wing player?
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 05:10:04 PM » |
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I wouldn't want to lose Ledesma from the side, he gets things moving and offers a touch of class on the ball. Matuzalem can go, he's been average at best and a liability in terms of temperament, perhaps Cana can do a better job there.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 06:02:00 PM » |
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I wouldn't want to lose Ledesma from the side, he gets things moving and offers a touch of class on the ball. Matuzalem can go, he's been average at best and a liability in terms of temperament, perhaps Cana can do a better job there.
Definitely. Ledesma's role in this team could be said to be as crucial as that of Hernanes. He should be intoccabile. Regarding Cana, I am under the impression that he is not yet 100% fit? Still, the only positive side in the second half against Aris were the few glimpses we saw of The Warrior. He should usurp Matuzalem's throne in no time. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 06:08:00 PM » |
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I wanna see Cana or Brocchi used instead of Matuzalem.
Preferably 4-3-1-2 with Gonzalez, Ledesma and Cana/Brocchi, with Hernanes behind Klose and Zarate. Will have a strong bench as well with Mauri, Cisse and Rocchi.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 06:16:14 PM » |
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Last season and this preseason Brocchi has been the hardest running and strongest tackling player we've had. I dont see Reja having him bench, not at the start of the season. Ledesma- Brocchi it should be to start.
4-2-3-1 is the way to go I think. Zarate on the bench to replace any of the 4 up top. It will still be so hard to include Rocchi and Kozak with 1 striker albeit.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 02:31:05 AM » |
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Id be up for Brocchi instead of Matu, in my opinion his age is irrelevant, he may struggle to last 90 minutes now but when he is on the pitch, no one gives more effort for the team.
Watch him live, he is driving the team on all the time, even when we are winning. I saw him give Hernanes and Floccari the hairdryer when they werent finding space for him to pass in to. We were 2-0 up at the time.
Legend, our Gattuso.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 11:17:45 AM » |
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 With our current players I'd play with these. I am not happy with Konko and Biava in the defence line, we should bring in a young and good cb or let Radu play beside Dias. Mauri can play instead of Zarate if he sucks again, same with Brocchi for Cana. |
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