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Things are so bad infact, that expecting a win against an in-form Milan team is ludicrous.
So what do you suggest? Simply to hoist the white flag and to say that we are giving up because we don't have a chance? We are not likely to win, but I do believe we have a chance. Everything can happen. We dont have that shit team, just its not working right now and it can turn around in every match. Expecting a win is not ludicrous. Ludicrous is that it seems that there is almost no-one supporting his team here.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:59 PM » |
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^^^ Right on! Look at Villareal, their players are saying that even in the depths of their crisis (which in many ways was even worse than ours thusfar) they and their fans never lost heart and never gave up hope. I don't see why we should either.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2009, 03:07:48 PM » |
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Things are so bad infact, that expecting a win against an in-form Milan team is ludicrous.
So what do you suggest? Simply to hoist the white flag and to say that we are giving up because we don't have a chance? We are not likely to win, but I do believe we have a chance. Everything can happen. We dont have that shit team, just its not working right now and it can turn around in every match. Expecting a win is not ludicrous. Ludicrous is that it seems that there is almost no-one supporting his team here. It's called REALITY! If we weren't supporting the team then i'm sure we wouldn't be posting on this forum to begin with. It looks to me that most of the forum is on the same page and obviously we're disgruntled from the REALITY of the situation. Yes theirs a chance although a very very very very slim one. We have at most 4-5 good players and the rest shit and that goes for our ENTIRE ROSTER whereas AC Milan's bench would most likely beat us. Some of us consider Brocchi a good player .. and he was scraps for AC Milan that we picked up. I know REALITY hurts but thats just the way it is. I have a little faith against Villa even though the odds aren't in our favor .. but against AC Milan ??? At this point expecting a turnaround is from this team is NUTS .. we're 30% into the season and the other 20% is not going to be pretty. As things stand right now only god or a crazy mercato is going to turn this team around. Throw pandev and ledesma into the mix and we might see a slight improvement... but it's too late for that. CONTRO TUTTO, TUTTI, TOTTI E LOTITO!
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2009, 03:46:32 PM » |
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Things are so bad infact, that expecting a win against an in-form Milan team is ludicrous.
So what do you suggest? Simply to hoist the white flag and to say that we are giving up because we don't have a chance? We are not likely to win, but I do believe we have a chance. Everything can happen. We dont have that shit team, just its not working right now and it can turn around in every match. Expecting a win is not ludicrous. Ludicrous is that it seems that there is almost no-one supporting his team here. I said as much already. In my earlier post, I said 99.9 percent likely to lose, but there's always a chance we might win. So if you please don't question my integrity as a fan... it's called being a realist.
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2009, 03:48:36 PM » |
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What about Milan? They only have 4-5 good players as well. Pato, Ronaldinho, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf.
Dida (crap, worse then Muslera, makes mistakes in every game) Zambrotta (old and is not the same player he was some years ago, living off his reputation) Oddo (Good crosser, but old and not the same player he was years ago) Thiago Silva (Young but hasn't really impressed, has made mistakes in the past and is lucky having Nesta beside him) Ambrosini (The definition of average) Borriello (non existent yesterday, is inconsistent and first goals of the season came against Parma) Huntelaar (Out of sorts in Serie A) Onyewu (worse then Cribs) Gattuso (finished)
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2009, 04:02:29 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2009, 04:14:46 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
Forza Lazio! If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim. 
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2009, 04:28:46 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
Forza Lazio! If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim.  Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times.
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2009, 04:48:02 PM » |
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Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times.
Sorry, who are you exactly? Don't claim to know anything about me. And I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that, that is how the topic started like this. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right and target those that only support Lazio for a hobby and not for a job, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday.
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2009, 05:13:02 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
Forza Lazio! If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim.  Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times. Sorry, and I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday. va fancullo realists. Imagine you 'realists' were to occupy the Curva Nord for this match, you guys would be slouched in your seats waiting for that 90th minute whistle to be blown to see the scoreline in Milan's favor and not make a sound. If we are Lazio fans, we must support our club through thick and thin. If you do not like Lotito and Ballardini and are expecting Lazio to consistently get poor results, then there is no significance in your posts in LazioForever any longer. Okay we see Lazio are in a crisis and its the real thing, but I will be at the edge of my seat the whole game expecting Lazio to get a result even against a FIFA dream team. I will not expect for Milan to score on us I will wait for Lazio to score on Milan first. I will never expect Lazio to lose and you will never catch me quoting I am 99% sure we will lose. We are Lazio, and I expect from the group of professionals we have from the management to the team squad that we play and manage every game with positive intentions in our heads. I believe the fans should share this belief and desire to strive for the best result.
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Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times.
Sorry, who are you exactly? Don't claim to know anything about me. And I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that, that is how the topic started like this. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right and target those that only support Lazio for a hobby and not for a job, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday. haha, really dont expect you to care what I say whatsoever. And you obviously do care enough to have to edit and change your post just so you can bash me justttttttt right. I never said you followed Lazio for a hobby and I dont intend to bash anyone its a fucking online forum. All I am saying is look back at this topic as an example and tell me the quality of discussion about SS LAZIO 1900 is not going down to drain.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2009, 05:18:06 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
Forza Lazio! If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim.  Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times. Sorry, and I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday. va fancullo realists. Imagine you 'realists' were to occupy the Curva Nord for this match, you guys would be slouched in your seats waiting for that 90th minute whistle to be blown to see the scoreline in Milan's favor and not make a sound. If we are Lazio fans, we must support our club through thick and thin. If you do not like Lotito and Ballardini and are expecting Lazio to consistently get poor results, then there is no significance in your posts in LazioForever any longer. Okay we see Lazio are in a crisis and its the real thing, but I will be at the edge of my seat the whole game expecting Lazio to get a result even against a FIFA dream team. I will not expect for Milan to score on us I will wait for Lazio to score on Milan first. I will never expect Lazio to lose and you will never catch me quoting I am 99% sure we will lose. We are Lazio, and I expect from the group of professionals we have from the management to the team squad that we play and manage every game with positive intentions in our heads. I believe the fans should share this belief and desire to strive for the best result. 08
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2009, 05:26:56 PM » |
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What about Milan? They only have 4-5 good players as well. Pato, Ronaldinho, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf.
Dida (crap, worse then Muslera, makes mistakes in every game) Zambrotta (old and is not the same player he was some years ago, living off his reputation) Oddo (Good crosser, but old and not the same player he was years ago) Thiago Silva (Young but hasn't really impressed, has made mistakes in the past and is lucky having Nesta beside him) Ambrosini (The definition of average) Borriello (non existent yesterday, is inconsistent and first goals of the season came against Parma) Huntelaar (Out of sorts in Serie A) Onyewu (worse then Cribs) Gattuso (finished)
Stop bashing Lazio and start bashing Milan FORZA RAGAZZI
AC is as deperate as we are right now for their expectations and that makes this game even scarier. Other threats like flamini and inzaghi are also very dangerous and I would take flamini in a hearbeat. The bashing at this point is well deserved and if we've been pessimistic since mercato its because we sensed this was going to happen .. it was for the reason that we were right all along while the cheerleaders keep confusing team pride with our perspective towards the actual players and management themselves. When we play livorno you can count on my optimism cuz i think we can beat them .. but for this game .. mah! The conflict of opinions is what you don't see fit .. but it definitely entertains me to still some of you so positive when the team is obviously hopeless because of el presidente lack of investment combined tarnishing relationships and not finding an agreement which i have a feeling will haunt him come mercato time. Just as the supercoppa was used in my eyes as an excuse to excuse investment .. these losses may create awareness that we shouldn't settle for mediocrity come mercato time when we patch up the holes in this club right now that are held together by bubble gum and scotch tape.
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2009, 05:36:04 PM » |
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If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim. brave words. There's a difference between being realistic (even pessimistically realistic) and defeatism. You people are verging on the later and I fail to understand the point of posting endlessly about how terrible it will all be. I don't have to join in, but being that this IS a forum.....well..... As for telling me to get lost, well, aside from being churlish, all this time on this forum has clearly left you none the wiser. Forza Lazio! Sempre ed ovunque.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2009, 05:43:13 PM » |
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The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.
again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?
p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.
Forza Lazio! If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice. Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene. And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim.  Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly. This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times. Sorry, and I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday. va fancullo realists. Imagine you 'realists' were to occupy the Curva Nord for this match, you guys would be slouched in your seats waiting for that 90th minute whistle to be blown to see the scoreline in Milan's favor and not make a sound. If we are Lazio fans, we must support our club through thick and thin. If you do not like Lotito and Ballardini and are expecting Lazio to consistently get poor results, then there is no significance in your posts in LazioForever any longer. Okay we see Lazio are in a crisis and its the real thing, but I will be at the edge of my seat the whole game expecting Lazio to get a result even against a FIFA dream team. I will not expect for Milan to score on us I will wait for Lazio to score on Milan first. I will never expect Lazio to lose and you will never catch me quoting I am 99% sure we will lose. We are Lazio, and I expect from the group of professionals we have from the management to the team squad that we play and manage every game with positive intentions in our heads. I believe the fans should share this belief and desire to strive for the best result. I think all the fans want to see this Lazio do well .. who doesn't. Really.. who is hoping for a loss. I think a loss might create awareness as I said before because in lotito's thick head .. losing half a season is not proof enough to improve the team but 1 or 2 wins at the end of the season is to not. I'm sure if I was in the stands I'd be cheering them on for sure from the first minute.. who goes to a game just to boo their team anyways ? But i'll tell you this .. if they lost .. damn straight i would join in the chorus.
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