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I know its too early for this topic since we still have to face Villareal but I thought i'd get it started anyways. I'm pretty sure their not a single fan out there that thinks we have any chance at winning this game. I honestly think bala should just go all out for the uefa match and field all the youth/misfits on the team and see who can hold their own.

                     degre

   Scaloni  stendardo   Artipoli   Faraoni


         Perpetuini  Baronio  Sevieri

                      Meghni

        delnero                 Inzaghi


i probably have positions totally wrong since i've never even seen these guys play before ... i say GO NUTS!!!!!  i-razz

This game even with our first team will be a ravaging. I doubt this will be the straw that breaks the camels back and gets ballardini fired ... probably another press silence though. But i'm sure its known that this is a long shot even if ac played their second string and we played our first. I know i should be saying lets put up a fight yata-yata .. but in a time where i can't stay even remotely positive anymore with this team anymore i say we just use it to experiment with new players.

I think we can win...
Just fucking kidding, the game should be settled at halftime. i-cry

You know with that kind of attitude you guys call yourself fans. Yes were struggling at the moment but know hard core fan predicts  the team they follow to get smashed. I don't care where lazio are at the moment you still have to have some belief of the team causing an upset. We all know lazio and when they, like this week have been attacked by the fans and media usually come out firing for a big game like this one ahead. Lazio don't need  their fans to go against them as well!!!!  ievil

Milan simply are the team that year after year, game after game, we never do well against. Last win, in Serie A, was in 1998 at home so yes we are well over due a win, but really this one could not have come at a worse time for the squad. Still, Forza Lazio and who knows, maybe the tide will turn. Got to have some hope to keep me sain.  06

If we knock Pato, Pirlo and Ronnie from the start we might pull something out this game.

I like your theory Latius  iscarf2


Meh, I dunno. What can we all learn from Lazio. Either the following:

1. We will drop points to teams we should be beating.
2. We will get something from teams that should beat us.

I'm 99.9 % sure Milan will have a comfortable 2-3 goal win over us. But, as is football, and as is with Lazio, the impossible is not always impossible. We will however, have to rely on horse shoes like the Super Coppa, I doubt very much we will be able to deserve or earn a result from this game.

I want to Eliseu.

Play Elisieu and some of the youth team, mind as well turn the negative into a positive and if we lose 4-0 just more medicine to get some changes around here.  Games like Milan are not the ones we should expect a win or even a draw right now but just play, show up and fight.  If they at least fight and compete then that is a step forward.

I consider myself a realist not eluded by the love of my team. I also think you're setting yourself up for dissapointment if you go into this game thinking we can actually win when the result is pretty obvious according to our track record and who we're actually playing.

Theo, 3-2 .. that's pretty generous considering we've barely scored all season with 8 goals in 11 games.

It will take a supercoppa horseshoe to win this game.

FORZA LAZIO!

I meant a 2-0 or 3-0 win for them. As if I could possibly say we are going to score more then 1 against them, if that.

Latius vattene  i-twist i-twist i-twist i-twist

 i-beer


... I want to Eliseu.

Eliseu no want to, Eli bad. Eli preseason game no good, he learn then come. Want to Salas and Lopez, good memories please back.

Victory to Lazio pyro

Haha we are talking like 'LazioThailand' now. I want know where Lazio jersey.

Anyways, AC Milan have finally hit their stride. Just thinking about Alexandre Pato will do to Siviglia or Cribari gives me the chills. I hope they put Diakite on him before anyone else. Thiago Silva who partners Nesta in the back is our only way of pulling a result here. He gave Roma a gift and like our own defense has shown he can screw up some simple plays. I hope Lazio can keep this game close and a tie in this situation would feel like a positive result. I cant even say I hope we win Villareal so we have the confidence for Milan, because when we had won Villareal last time we just got ran over by Bari and lost every ounce of confidence.

Eliseu is need. Brocchi winger not. Lopez too early went. Eli unlucky. Lazio to Eli lose. Back Spain to.
I think to draw. 2 to 2.

DO not to pessimist.

Are you OK ???
in this season Delnero used in defence and in your team is a foeward
I think this game a new start for us however I like SINISA instead of balla

i was being sarcastic with this lineup. My lack of confidence in winning this game says we should just experiment .. i would actually like to see what some of our youth players have to offer since most of our regulars are mediocre anyways.

I really don't get the point of the direction this topic has taken. It's too bad we can't all go and sit in the CN and create a banner about how badly we're going to get beaten and where and how we're going to take it in which orifice etc. 

Forza rega'

With all due respect what do you want most of us to do jump up and down like cheerleaders and fooling ourselves into thinking this team has what it takes to do anything. Being a pessimist right now is being realistic. You couldn't possibly after the last two months have anything good to say about lotito, ballardini or the squad or have faith in this team walking into games like this. We're not resigning from being fans and its not blasphemy to talk about how bad this team is or how bad they'll have it. There's different types of fans who have different types of perspectives. I think what keeps this forum going is the clashes in opinions which adds to the forum ... and if you disagree ... well thats your opinion. I get what your saying but in my perspective i'm finding humour in these dark times.

FORZA LAZIO!

only that the eleven guys who take the field wear my beloved white and blue. I'm as angry and as frustrated as anyone here, but sometimes, when you're going through hell, the important thing is to keep going, and eventully you'll get out.


i thought that was what alcohol was for. i-beer

Definition: Alcohol - pronounced Al~co~hol

" A beverage consisting of an organic compound in which a hydroxyl group (-OH) is bound to a carbon atom of an alkyl or substituted alkyl group. Said beverage can only merely send the user into a state of temporary mind disorder, or as commonly known as "forget the fucking shit out of it." With regard to Lazio results, alcohol cannot provide humour, as watching Lazio stumble about whilst appearing themselves intoxicated with shit tactics and lack of desire, is worst then any mind disorder a beverage could function a la mode"

Boh?

Wow guys, Milan are shit. I know we are as well but I prefer Ballardini over Leonardo. Are Milan really hitting their stride? They (like us) can't score and they have been lucky recently. Against Roma (A turning point for Milan kind of) they went under and Roma should have finished the game in the first half, they didn't however and Milan got an undeserved win. Then came Chievo and Milan needed an extra time goal to win them (Chievo were 1-0 up till the 80th min), next were Napoli, Milan stunned them early on with two goals but then there was only Napoli. Last game against Parma, okay Milan won but it was Parma at the San Siro.

Although they have been getting (undeserved) results lately I really don't fear them. Their team is old and the troubles they had early on in the season are still there. This is the game we will turn it around and WIN. I'm betting my avatar picture on it.

Or meet the Satan face to face. ieek
"Satan does not deceive others in the manner of one who knows the truth and merely seeks to mislead. Satan lies because his own intelligence has been darkened by his perverted will. He is the "father of lies" because he has deluded himself and willfully persists in his self-delusion."

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7pmRaVDVMzs/SdS_Ppm453I/AAAAAAAABKQ/hhGJ60_dfsw/s320/Claudio_Lotito.jpg)

@Theo

Bro you must learn how to use Boh and Mah man. Mah!

Lotito's hell is eternal, face it he has not learned in the past on too many reaccuring issues.  Cut him slack once, twice but three times your out.  Lotito, Tare & Balla = the three satans. 

Back to Milan, they have always suffered defensivley, today in the CL game no Gattuso who is slow, same defensive line and a very offensive lineup with 1 striker backed by Ronaldinho and Pato yet they still played well defensilvley and very dangerous on the counter with their distribution and speed.  Wonder if a more offensive strategy would work using eli/zarate/foggia in the upper mid with meghni/matuzlem and brocchi at the back with rocchi as the striker, since our defence sucks anyway we couldn't withstand an attack like milan for life itself mind as well try for a shootout or at least keep the ball moving away from our half.  4-4-2 is the usual safe bet but we only have one real asset which is offensive speed so mind as well use it since everything else has been tried already. Not the tri-dent but a system to fill up the midfield with players to slow down the opposition from transitioning so quickly as well as creating a quick counter attack with 4 potential scorers.     

I think milan have been gaining momentum and ronaldinho has been playing better. Pato is unstoppable and today they should have won 2-1 against Real Madrid. To say they're shit is a stretch .. to say we're shit is pretty realistic. Leonardo is a shit coach .. i agree... but ballardini is also shit. This game would require a lot of luck on our part to win and player for player they destroy us on paper. I'd like to see an upset but it's highly unlikely. I think a tie is the best result we can get.

I wouldn't mind seeing Inzaghino on the field for a bit against his brothers team. When he's on the pitch he means business. I'm sure our strikers are going to be exhausted from the villa match so why not give the guy a chance.

If lazio use Foggia and Eli thats the only way we can really challenge them. Deliver some neat crosses for Cruz and tommy to attack at!!!! 00

Latius I almost always agree with you no matter what the issue is so I have I question for you(and others on the forum)
In your opinion ,who is/was 'shitier' as Lazio coach - Rossi or Balla?

My vote has to go for Balla because IMO he is even clueless about who should be Lazios starting 11!
what do you think? Here is a thought,why won't we make a poll and see the opinion we have on that question?  icool

Theres no comparison at all at the moment between a team that took four points of Real Madrid, should have been six, in the champions league and a team, us, that can not score more than one goal a game and also cannot keep a clean sheet. Milan have turned their dire start around, and don't look anything like the team that was mauled 4-0 in the Milan derby. Defensively they are much more solid this season with Nesta back, and Thiago Silva playing well along side him. There recent wins have been tight, but they've found a way to win each time, as much as we seem to find a way to loose. Realistically, If Milan are shit, then what that makes us I really shudder to think.

That's the stupidest thing I've seen since a certain Canadian folk singer decided to go hiking through the woods wearing a plaque that said "Coyotes, please come and eat me."

Word. Honestly, how can be hard to determine the first eleven after over 10 matches? We have a coach below this team...

I wont delude myshelf by think Milan is shit too, at least Milan is Milan, ok as a squad and avarage old, no chance for tittle in any competiton for them I bet but, better than us for sure. Pato Pato Pato, the guy I am afraid of mostly... After playing against Villa in Spain and then Milan seems very bad luck for fixture. I dont think our squad is professinal enough to manage 2 or 3 matches in a week.

I am sorry that I have really no reason to talk more hopefully. I can just say, maybe Milan's stars wont be good, maybe Foggia and Zarate and Rocchi will play their best game so far this season... run out of words simply... just full of wishes.

When seeing the rest of the matches in the first half of league, we can really face days full of darkness ievil Damn ievil

Forza Lazio 00

Last night Milan didn't deserve to win. Sure they got a goal disallowed but the penalty decision was debatable as well. + The Real Madrid defense isn't good enough and teams will always score goals against them. As for Milan they have been struggling all season. Good run of results lately and you all think they're awesome? Come on, this is the same team that lost to Zurich, Udinese, couldn't score vs Livorno, and drew vs Atalanta and Bari. They are not in the same class as Inter, Juve, Napoli and Fiorentina and this season they will miss out on the top 4. We are doing terrible at the moment but some of you just want to see us lose. Then you can spend the week posting in the fuck Lotito thread. If you have seen Milan play they have been getting undeserved results and this season will turn out to be a disaster for them.

None of us are saying they are brilliant - but on current form, they are good, very good indeed. They have turned a corner since those crap results you have mentioned. It seems you really hate Milan, fair enough. They have players that wipe the floor with ours, that's how I see it. Furthermore, it seems to have escaped you, but we (Lazio) are in a pretty bad state right now, are any of our results more convincing then theirs? Fuck no. - Things are so bad infact, that expecting a win against an in-form Milan team is ludicrous.

So what do you suggest? Simply to hoist the white flag and to say that we are giving up because we don't have a chance? We are not likely to win, but I do believe we have a chance. Everything can happen. We dont have that shit team, just its not working right now and it can turn around in every match. Expecting a win is not ludicrous. Ludicrous is that it seems that there is almost no-one supporting his team here.

^^^ Right on!
Look at Villareal, their players are saying that even in the depths of their crisis (which in many ways was even worse than ours thusfar) they and their fans never lost heart and never gave up hope. I don't see why we should either.

Forza Lazio! Sempre ed ovunque! Until the bitter end if need be.

It's called REALITY! If we weren't supporting the team then i'm sure we wouldn't be posting on this forum to begin with. It looks to me that most of the forum is on the same page and obviously we're disgruntled from the REALITY of the situation. Yes theirs a chance although a very very very very slim one. We have at most 4-5 good players and the rest shit and that goes for our ENTIRE ROSTER whereas AC Milan's bench would most likely beat us. Some of us consider Brocchi a good player .. and he was scraps for AC Milan that we picked up. I know REALITY hurts but thats just the way it is.

I have a little faith against Villa even though the odds aren't in our favor .. but against AC Milan ???

At this point expecting a turnaround is from this team is NUTS .. we're 30% into the season and the other 20% is not going to be pretty. As things stand right now only god or a crazy mercato is going to turn this team around.

Throw pandev and ledesma into the mix and we might see a slight improvement... but it's too late for that.

CONTRO TUTTO, TUTTI, TOTTI E LOTITO!

I said as much already. In my earlier post, I said 99.9 percent likely to lose, but there's always a chance we might win.

So if you please don't question my integrity as a fan... it's called being a realist.  icool

What about Milan? They only have 4-5 good players as well. Pato, Ronaldinho, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf.

Dida (crap, worse then Muslera, makes mistakes in every game)
Zambrotta  (old and is not the same player he was some years ago, living off his reputation)
Oddo (Good crosser, but old and not the same player he was years ago)
Thiago Silva (Young but hasn't really impressed, has made mistakes in the past and is lucky having Nesta beside him)
Ambrosini (The definition of average)
Borriello (non existent yesterday, is inconsistent and first goals of the season came against Parma)
Huntelaar (Out of sorts in Serie A)
Onyewu (worse then Cribs)
Gattuso (finished)

Stop bashing Lazio and start bashing Milan
FORZA RAGAZZI

The difference between them and us is that they are playing better as a team. They definitely have some great players, but ours aren't that far off - we just seem to be in a tremendous slump.

again, wtf is the point of this topic? Okay, you're all realists, you think we have virtually no chance of winning, and then what? Are you going to post everyday until the match that we are going to lose? And then if we do, then waht? Perhaps another week of I told you so posts while we fill up the thread for the next match with more posts about how we will not win. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions but what's the point of all of this?

p.s. claiming to being realists as a defense for pessimism (even warranted pessimism) is just another way of saying that everyone else is unrealistic and therefore flawed in their opinion.   

Forza Lazio!

If you don't like it Imper, you don't have to join in with it! Simple. I'm not happy with being so pessimistic, but I have no choice.
Oh and by the way, what will happen ,if, hopefully, we beat Milan.. your gonna post every day saying how all of us ain't worth the steam of your piss. vattene.
And you ain't in a position to tell me how I can or can't defend myself, sonny jim.  icool

Be as pessimistic as you want, but for someone who relentlessly heckled a user for not contributing to the forum as you saw fit, its becoming a joke that basically your prime contribution to this forum is basically flaming the team constantly.  This topic all I have seen from your posts is a constant bashing of the team and jokes (which are in incredibly bad taste to boot). 

I know you are knowledgeable about soccer, how about some actual discussion about how we can possibly win this game and what this team needs to do to turn it around. I would think this would be what we all are most concerned about, especially during these completely horrible times.

Sorry, who are you exactly? Don't claim to know anything about me. And I care what you say, because? Unlike some users, I do not spend my time quoting from other websites constantly... I talk about the team winning games when I see fit. This topic has taken a different discussion, with you optimistic people ATTACKING us realists for no reason, you have no right to do that, that is how the topic started like this. The person who I bashed, or people, do you see them in this topic or any other? I suggest you get your priorites right and target those that only support Lazio for a hobby and not for a job, how fucking dare you single me out for criticism, when I contribute greatly to this forum everyday.

va fancullo realists. Imagine you 'realists' were to occupy the Curva Nord for this match, you guys would be slouched in your seats waiting for that 90th minute whistle to be blown to see the scoreline in Milan's favor and not make a sound. If we are Lazio fans, we must support our club through thick and thin. If you do not like Lotito and Ballardini and are expecting Lazio to consistently get poor results, then there is no significance in your posts in LazioForever any longer. Okay we see Lazio are in a crisis and its the real thing, but I will be at the edge of my seat the whole game expecting Lazio to get a result even against a FIFA dream team. I will not expect for Milan to score on us I will wait for Lazio to score on Milan first. I will never expect Lazio to lose and you will never catch me quoting I am 99% sure we will lose. We are Lazio, and I expect from the group of professionals we have from the management to the team squad that we play and manage every game with positive intentions in our heads. I believe the fans should share this belief and desire to strive for the best result.

haha, really dont expect you to care what I say whatsoever.  And you obviously do care enough to have to edit and change your post just so you can bash me justttttttt right.  

I never said you followed Lazio for a hobby and I dont intend to bash anyone its a fucking online forum.  All I am saying is look back at this topic as an example and tell me the quality of discussion about SS LAZIO 1900 is not going down to drain.

 08

AC is as deperate as we are right now for their expectations and that makes this game even scarier. Other threats like flamini and inzaghi are also very dangerous and I would take flamini in a hearbeat. The bashing at this point is well deserved and if we've been pessimistic since mercato its because we sensed this was going to happen .. it was for the reason that we were right all along while the cheerleaders keep confusing team pride with our perspective towards the actual players and management themselves. When we play livorno you can count on my optimism  cuz i think we can beat them .. but for this game .. mah!

The conflict of opinions is what you don't see fit .. but it definitely entertains me to still some of you so positive when the team is obviously hopeless because of el presidente lack of investment combined tarnishing relationships and not finding an agreement which i have a feeling will haunt him come mercato time. Just as the supercoppa was used in my eyes as an excuse to excuse investment .. these losses may create awareness that we shouldn't settle for mediocrity come mercato time when we patch up the holes in this club right now that are held together by bubble gum and scotch tape.

brave words. There's a difference between being realistic (even pessimistically realistic) and defeatism. You people are verging on the later and I fail to understand the point of posting endlessly about how terrible it will all be. I don't have to join in, but being that this IS a forum.....well.....

As for telling me to get lost, well, aside from being churlish, all this time on this forum has clearly left you none the wiser.

Forza Lazio! Sempre ed ovunque.  

I think all the fans want to see this Lazio do well .. who doesn't. Really.. who is hoping for a loss. I think a loss might create awareness as I said before because in lotito's thick head .. losing half a season is not proof enough to improve the team but 1 or 2 wins at the end of the season is to not. I'm sure if I was in the stands I'd be cheering them on for sure from the first minute.. who goes to a game just to boo their team anyways ? But i'll tell you this .. if they lost .. damn straight i would join in the chorus.  

Hey guys, calm down. Don't get personal.


I know that all of us wish Lazio to win both matches and to get going, till then get used to different opinion no matter how much you like them or not.

va fancullo to yourself, fellow Lazio fan. Are you proud to target your own? And I thought Merda was the enemy. Oh well  icool

Please include one single quote from any of us realists that say we want Lazio to lose. Go on. Find it. That's a pathetic accusation. Just because I and others are open about Lazio's probable defeat, doesn't mean we want Lazio to lose. You fail.


Shall we all bow down and kiss your feet, arrogant King of the Curva Nord? If this is a forum whereby you don't have to join in, but do, then that also applies to myself and others who wish to state that we will probably lose this that or the other. Call it defeatist if you want, but the table and performances don't lie, so how you and your Canadian chums can slag everyone off for trying to keep themselves sane by being realistic about things is beyond me.



I edited my post because I wanted to put attacking in capital letters to make a point. You got personal with me for no reason. If anything, Latius is far more negative then me, but you say fuck all to him, I wonder why, Canadians together and screw everyone else. The quality of this discussion is not my fault. What I say about my team is up to me, if you don't like it, tough! You think I can stand what certain, part time Lazio full time Liverpool fans say? I can't do anything about it, and neither can you.

I said it before I don't think we have even the slightest chance to win but JUST SHOW UP TO THE GAME.  I think if they at least show some effort for 90 consistent minutes its at least something positive to be happy about.  Realism is looking at the stats, the odds, the actual way this team has played for the last few months.  They don't just lose they lose pathetically.  If the team had shown some Non Mollare Mai attitude and if Lotito/Tare/Balla were not so retarded in the way they treat and address the fans then spirits would be a bit higher.  Unless anyone needs a breakdown game by game what our chances are the general outlook is going to be a rocky path.  We are not in Serie B yet but looking at reality it is DEFINITLEY a concern.  It was hard enough to get a feed against Seina the other day I don;t want to Not be able to follow the team whether in A or B.  If we have to Fail horribly let it be a positive in that Lotito wakes the Fuck Up for Once!  Repeatidly keeping all things the same and expecting different results = Insanity.  If the Market ends with nothing like it has before is anyone expecting different results for the second half?? 

I slag Latius personally since we play indoor on Mondays....he knows it's NOT personal.

As for Canadians sticking together, boy have you got a lot to learn about Canadians and their/our sense of nationalism.

Calm down. All of this frustration is turning us into a pack of jackals.

Sorry, this is all my fault .. i set the tone for the thread myself as i'm still enraged from 8 games ago still. It shouldn't be personal as we're all going for the same team through these crucial times.

FORZA LAZIO 1900!

To be realist doesn`t mean that you want Lazio to lose. Anyways,dont get personal guys. FORZA LAZIO  09

I agree......it is all your fault. i-beer

know wonder everyone is so uptight. Lazio's results haven't been good so I guess were taking it out on each other. Lets just see what happens on the day!!!!!

FORZA LAZIO  00

I predict that Zarate Kid will do well for this game. iscarf1 07 04

And that's it is it?
Whenever I get heavy on someone I get warned officially. But it's fine for others to attack me as they see fit?
I love this place.  icool

where's Pia when we need him the most?  i-beer Bro pls some words of wisdom or some definition at least?

P.S why you all did not give me a call before starting the fight!?   i-razz

I mean come on...everybody chill ! iscarf1 I also think that Lazio is fucking joke(=crap) right now and that there is no hope until the start of the winter mercato but that isn't very good reason to start verbal fight on such low level ! everybody has the right to have there own opinion but time will tell who was right and who was wrong!
For one I was the one who was blaming Lotito the most for this mess and for now I'm right ! Imper doesn't want to admit this publicly because of his own beliefs but the truth is that reality is biting all of our asses for now(that is the reason why we are so nervous like this)! That don't make me less Lazio fan than anybody else on this forum! Don't you forget that!

my prediction on the outcome in the match against Milan is 1-2! I'm good at predictions! Just see my posts that were about the match against Villa at home and you will belive me!  i-beer

Forza Claudio I mean Lazio!  i-twist

that is why I put the # 1in my prediction! Think not  i-twist I think he is doing fine in almost every game but he is not of a goalscorer for me!

Don't get emotional. No one is attacking you personally, I'm taking issue with the bent of this argument. Anyway, who cares, water under the bridge.  I think we should all take Jofo's post into consideration and move on. We have a big match today, let's put pur energies to good use and send some positive karma that way.

Forza Lazio!

And lazio will win. iscarf1

You boys stopped bickering? ;-)  - Just pulling your legs, that was a passionate debate!  I'm excited about tonight's game as I'm going to have a few beers, forget about my shitty week and cheer on our Lazio!!!!!  It's my birthday tomorrow, so if they win tonight will be a great gift for me, and if they win on Sunday (em, not so sure, but I hope so much!), then it will be one of the best birthdays in a while. 

 pyro Forza Lazio!!!

Ready or not Milan, here we come........ iscarf1

Lazio - Milan
Stadio Olimpico
      

It’s Milan versus Rome part one. Inter and Roma do battle on Sunday evening, but before then their respective city rivals face off at the Olimpico.

Not since the 1997-98 season have Lazio beaten Milan at home in Serie A – a total of 10 games unbeaten for the Rossoneri. Kaka and Alberto Gilardino both struck doubles in a 5-1 thrashing of the Biancocelesti two years ago, whilst David Beckham was star of the show with two assists last term as Milan left the capital with a 3-0 win.

In short this is exactly the kind of fixture the crisis-hit Aquile could do without. Davide Ballardini’s men are woefully underperforming and without a League win since Week 2. Just like their fierce rivals Roma they have suffered training ground protests and criticism from their fans.

They at least avoided three consecutive defeats with a 1-1 draw at Siena last Sunday, though it was neither an impressive performance nor result. A squad containing the likes of Mauro Zarate, Tommaso Rocchi, Julio Cruz and Alexsandar Kolarov is capable of much better, but unless they start to prove it against Milan then Ballardini may well be out of a job.

The axe was hanging over Leonardo’s head not so long ago, but the Brazilian has dramatically transformed his side’s form. The 2-1 win over Roma on matchday eight was the catalyst – since then the Diavolo have bested Real Madrid, Chievo and Parma, the only blip being their late collapse in the 2-2 draw with Napoli.

Consequently they’ve reached the top four, Adriano Galliani’s stated aim for the season, but a club of their stature should be aiming higher, especially given the surprising return to form of Leo’s countrymen Ronaldinho and Dida.

Marco Borriello’s return to scoring form against Parma is great news for Milan and Italy, but not Klaas Jan Huntelaar, who is likely to be consigned to the bench once more.

Lazio’s Simone Del Nero, Ousmane Dabo and Mourad Meghni are injured.

Milan are missing Daniele Bonera, Christian Abbiati, Marco Storari, Alessandro Nesta, Marek Jankulovski and Oguchi Onyewu.

Keep an eye on: Ronaldinho (Milan) – A goal against Atalanta, a goal and an assist against Roma, two assists against Parma, slowly but surely we are starting to see the real Ronaldinho emerge. He must maintain his focus and work ethic to complete the process however.

Last five in Serie A: Lazio (D D L L D) Milan (D W W D W)

Last season: Lazio 0-3 Milan
Lazio (probable): Muslera; Lichsteiner, Siviglia, Radu, Kolarov; Matuzalem, Baronio, Mauri; Zarate, Cruz, Rocchi

Milan (probable): Dida; Oddo, Thiago Silva, Kaladze, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Ronaldinho, Pato, Borriello

lol Meghni hurt again...never fails.

that guy really has it the best .. plays 2-3 times a year and makes probably over 300K.

AKA . Mr Glass

He needs to be replaced!

Meghni di Cartone! I was one of the ones excited about his arrival - I think he came on reccomondation of Tare from the Bologna days together. Remarkable talent but he's just too fragile.

Wow he gets injured while not even playing, was really hoping he could get back to playing again. 

I'm tired of sitting on the fence. I'll give an opinion for once.


Meghni = Terrible. I love the fact he ain't playing. ONE assist all last season from memory. Sure everybody else we have in central midfield is pants atm, but it's just like saying we should get Makinwa in because Cruz and Zarate are struggling. No way Jose, or Mourad.

no one is saying he is the next zidane, he has some talent in dribbling and holding onto the ball which could add something over some of our current midfielders, I can't imagine that his game fitness ever allows him to get to 100% either since he seems to be on the perpetual injury list.

This kind of player belong to bologna, chievo, livorno and such.

Apparantly Ronaldinho may miss out due to a knock he picked up yesterday.

It's a shame, it's always good to watch him, and I'd love to see Lazio get something out the game with their best 11 out there.

But I'm not exactly going to complain too much. Here's hoping something happens to Pato too  i-wink

Hopefully he gets his foot trampled by a stampede of Berlusconi's underage prostitutes!

We should finally win a match and I think we could do it against milan. With Leonardo as a coach of the team I doubt  something good is expecting fucking rossoneri. Hope he is long time there. Fucking hate milan.  ievil

Dammit. Ronaldinho is fine to play. Sorry everyone  ieek

That's OK, he's not as nasty as he used to be...

At the end of the match, we can find ourshelves on the relegation zone if Livorno or others win. We are near losing, it wont be big surprise if losing Milan.

I'd rather Pato not play than Ronaldinho, but I guess Milan doesnt have injuried or banned players now, right? If we are able to score first, then maybe have a chance for win or at least a tie, but if we are down, then might be 3 or more for Milan.

I want to be optimistic but no reason for that unfortunately. Even if we win, what about the rest of the matches? The hard period is starting with Milan. We lost points against lower teams we shouldnt have lost.

Hope to see something different...

Forza Lazio 00

I have nothing to say.

 ieek
Lazio - Milan
Napoli - Lazio
Lazio - Bologna
Salzburg - Lazio (EL)
Merda - Lazio
Lazio - Genova
Lazio - Levski (El)
Inter - lazio
...

I've inserted a cut-off point where Balla needs to go. We absolutely cannot have that cunt in charge of us after that dotted line, unless we want our entire season in ruin.

If we loose tomorrow, that should be the final curtain. The position in the table, and the points on the board say it all. Enough is enough and with two weeks to prepare the team during the international break and get ready for the clash with Napoli it is time.

Still , I will be suprised if Lotito pulls the trigger.

I don't think this is an "if" even in past seasons when we were not in a crisis and played well against Milan we always implode sooner or later.  I doubt that cutoff point is going to yield anything new with Napoli storming back to power.   

Lots of talk about this being it for Ballardini. Not saying I believe them, but it seems likely that without improvements  and a win, Balla's days are numbered. I give him 3 games tops.

I will be extremely surprised if he goes so early on, but I guess if he still can't get results even when he knows his job is on the line then he deserves it.  The only thing that worries me is that Lotito will throw in some temp to relieve Balla and we will be left in no better situation.  I can just see it now, "Igli Tare to replace Ballardini as bench boss for remainder of the season."  Nightmare anyone?

Are we not already in a nightmare?  I don't think we are getting any improvment on coaching over Balla this time around but its worth just throwing the dice and gamble for some kind of kickstart

i just read that tomasso berni will be on the bench  tomorrow !! i thought berni was on loan...

As of today's practice looks like a 4-3-1-2 with Muslera; Lichtsteiner, Siviglia, Radu, Kolarov; Brocchi, Baronio, Mauri; Matuzalem; Rocchi, Zarate.

oh yeah super douple baronio-siviglia come and save us!!!!!!!!!

Good that Radu is starting to play in the CB position, has been one of few bright lights this season.
Brocchi, Mauri, Baronio, Matuzalem I don't like. Crowding the midfield like this ensuring Rocchi and Zarate won't get any support. Should play with wingers to give Zambrotta and Oddo a torrid time.

I don't understand why nobody likes to see Matuzalem play!?
He's one of our best midfielders, better than Mauri, Brocchi, Meghni etc...

Infuriating isnt it. Even Juve, with all there trequartista options, don't play 4:3:1:2. Simply put, you mark the treq out of the game, you cut off the link to the front two.

Well said. For god sake retire Sivigla while he is still breathing.

I don't get it either, earlier on there was the idea that defence would be jeprodized but we know it won't matter anyway so why not start two of our best assets without any thought.  Everytime we use a trequarterista or a trident striker attack our offence is worse and our defence suffers even more.

I don;t think Matuzelum is worse than Mauri or Baronio, he is a step up.  The only problems with him are was he worth the money and what he exactly does to give us any advantage.  He is kind of a utility player, not a pure defensive midfielder or offensive midfielder, not a playmaker but just general ability which is ok off the bench or around 3 other quality specialized midfielders but not a gamer decider.

Lazio365, if you wonder, I removed my original post which you quoted right above because I wanted to quote more people but adding quotes to a post which had been posted previous to people posting their posts I wanted to quote would have been silly. Did I get it right?

Anyway, all of a sudden I did not feel like writing or commenting anything anymore. I am sure the formation will not be changed to 4-4-2 with Foggia and Eliseu as wingers and who cares who is on the midfield besides them and why they should or should not be there. Let us just see how the game goes.

Ah rite, I did wonder actually. I though Id deleted it somehow when I went back and saw it wasnt there. Phew.


Yeah, true. I live in hope, but recent form suggests I may be stupid for doing that. Still, Forza Lazio.

Well Lazio haven't won against milan in serie A since 1998-99. They got smoked 2 years in a row. Lazio most likely will not win on Sunday. I hope for a tie. My wife and her family love and live for milan. So it would be nice if I can be happy and jump around one time when they play each other in Serie A. Also I am sick of Baronio. He is a Serie B player that has been on loan all most every season to so many teams. No teams want him. But now he starts every game for Lazio. What a joke. I wish they would let Ledesma Play. Lazio need him believe it or not. Plus he is better then Baronio any day of the week. No offense to Baronio lovers.

C'mon man, Baronio is indispensable player  ilol, but i wondering why even a fucking serieB team such Bresia doesnt need him.  i-razz

anybody knows tv streaming link for the match?thanks a lot. 00

Its live here http://www.bet365.com/home/default.asp?Affiliate=365_024277 but you need to register, which is free anyhow

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=53750&part=sports

For UK guys and girls the game is  ESPN UK. For rest of us try L365 links or ... Copy - past this link (do not click it) http://zulu.mk/live/11 .


As for me, I'll watch on my telly.

guys it's not on ESPN anymore.  I checked earlier in the week and it was, but it's changed, they are now showing feyenoord....that sucks - why do they do it?

I am lucky, mach is on TV iscarf1

was supposed to be on tv in uk too...............bastards!!!!  Let's hope we get a decent stream today.

 pyro

And I watched it in TV  iscarf3

RAI international is showing the match - usually means it will be available.

This is where we find out what the players think of Balla. They know he's on the line - if they come out fighting, they like him, respect him and want to keep him - if they come out flat, well, it means the opposite.

Its possible to see another protest after the match ilol I hope ım wrong...

Forza Lazio 00

It was never on ESPN UK. They were showing Inter vs Merda instead in the evening.


Whatever, Bet365 for the win. Because Lazio probably wont.  i-wink

See Zulu asshole and then say for the win  i-beer

it was listed earlier in the week though, they must have changed it...anyway it doesn't matter. I've logged into Bet365 it's there.  

cheers for reminding me!

watching the match live here form Singapore

i'm confused...the kit seems to have a sponsor? do we have or not have a sponsor???

Rocchi, I am expecting smething solid from him today, actually, from whole team but I have feeling he will score i-beer

I'm not used it to being the afternoon when we play.. anyone else? Damn weird playing Milan in the light.  iconfused

timing suits me fine as i want to catch the Chelsea / Man U match thereafter...  i-beer

Padeia is the sponsor - a quid pro quo with Lazio for medicl services on the field for all home games.

Can they perform surgery on our piss poor midfield?

Fuckkkkkkkk, another bad start ievil

Well defended, Lazio  icool

can they do miracles ????

a walk in the park for milan

One chance for milan, one goal. 1-0 milan and another one game sponsor.

The gulf in quality between the different midfields is.... well you know.

We need a basketball player to defend from these headers, also someone who knows how to mark a player, Rocchi was the closest player to defend that = big problem

our defense is a pile of wankiness

1-0 for Milan. Im not surprise at all  ievil

Silva....  ievil


we will WIN  iscarf1

Who need`s Pandev and Ledesma now ???????? ievil ievil ievil

Keep selling and nailing good players Lotito  iscarf1

It's too early to give up yet. Napoli have proved that against Milan and others.

Almost 2-0. Sorry gave up already. Haven't won in 11 years. Napoli is better then Lazio.

Everything going out of control of Bella!!!!!! be a man Bellardini!!! Thats enough

The only common thing with Napoli is colours, no more...

steadily getting in the game just hope something will happen and we'll get goals

bigrin

Can't argue with you. I'll join you if Milan get another. But with any game of football, if its only 1-0, anything can happen, Lazio or otherwise.

I don't think we're playing that badly. Sert pieces swung into the box with height and velocity have been our problem for years now. Anyway, Forza ragazzi!!!

Ok, It's official, I GIVE UP  i-beer

The defending again. Wowwaweewaaaa  ieek

Another header, another goal! We are helpless in the air.

2-0. Its over now.

as we all could predict, it was possible Pato scored ievil

0-2

Forza Lazio 00

2-0 milan

and yeah... The game is over!!! i hope Bellardini resign after this

I take back my earlier comment, we need several baskeball players for our defence.  Its a free for all in the box

I agree with Imper, we not playing that bad, but the difference is, our players dont know what they should do, but Milan's know, so, they came 3 times and scored 2 goals, not dominated but scored ievil

Theo, you had said that you were expecting a Milan win 0-2 or 0-3 right? bigrin Congs...

I fear it's not ONLY Ballardini to blame...

Who says that we are great with a new trainer??

do the right bellardini and resign you are than useless ievil

PENALTY FOR MILAN  ievil 3-0?

we've lost Theo now...  Balla resign?  Do coaches ever resign?  They are always sacked aren't they, and I'm pretty sure this is what will happen after this.

I'm a bit of a soft touch and when the camera goes onto Balla, you can see how he looks, and I feel a bit sorry...but you know that's they way it goes....

3 is coming just wait a second...

what is going on? when it rains...it pours...  i-cry ieek

Thank god they missed.

Im angry about Ballamerda and happy about boss lotitto in olampico and see the fuc*** balla
go out Davide iscarf3

indirect free kick in the penalty area not a penalty!

My official prediction that I enter for a competition is Lazio 1 - 3 Milan. Wouldn't surprise me at all tbh  iconfused

When it rains, it pours. That much is clear for everyone to see.

We'r not playing that bad but our players dont know how to do... lol, whats different here bro?

Now we well bay Kobe Bryant ,and we need 3 point shot lol ...... i-cry i-cry i-cry

And also, just to let you all know, this is 100% Balla's fault.

Yet again I see no organization.. that is Balla's job. Funny how we have more midfielders then Milan but they are passing it around us like nobody's business.

Not playing bad overall counts for nothing in the end with defending like this, that has been the problem all season.  A draw against Milan would have been a great result no matter where in the table we are.  Unfair to blame Balla for a loss here, it was all the other games bari, siena etc where he lost it

Genoa 3-0 against Siena shows the parallel comparison with our 1-1 draw and the difference between the two clubs.  

another free header in the box

I think Ballardini has to go, for his sake and ours.

Btw, i cringe everytime someone appends merda to his name. It seems rather boorish - look the guy is overmatched, he clearly wasn't the right choice - but the guy is not, by all accounts of those who've worked with him, either stupid nor is he unprofessional or lazy.

I was checking the results, both Bari and Parma are up, at least even they know to win at home...

Lack of organization? Yeah, thats what I am trying to say, it seems the game was turning in Milans field a bit more but meannigless passes and shoots from our guys...

really boring game besides the score btw ievil

true, can't get orange juice from a rock.  Same goes for Siviglia, Cribari and many others they just don't have the ability and why we need to invest in a good market and coach.

I'd rather see Papadopulo or Caso as a coach instead of Ballardini.

a boring game would have been in our favour, the last thing we need is an open game with Milan's ability

We were great till their first goal. Actually we aren't that bad (as Imper said) BUT boy that defense is terrible (ex Lich). Radu, Sivigla and Kolarov in defense are shit. So the question is, is this bye bye Balla.

Who can Lazio bring in now to change the game in the 2nd half. No one. Useless bench.

We simply is need to change, not only tactics. need fresh air in dressing room. We have to change before too late !!! move ur fucking ass Lotito  ievil

great point, honestly, we have not enough solid guys on the field, so its normal no in bench ievil

Shambles at the back, no suprises. Our home ground is not a fortress, no one is scared to come and play here, except us it would seem. Livorno aside, we are the most useless offensive team in Serie A. Pathetic.

We have Makinwa, dont worry, all will be fine. Him and Del Nero will tear Milan to shreds

Another example that we need a better defence!!!

Beside the defending i think lazio has played pretty good, if you consider how they have played the latest matches and that it is against milan they are playing. it isn't that bad so stop beeing so negative!
 00

Don't forget inzaghi. The shit one.

Yeah this is truly Inzaghi derby. Brother to brother, mano el mano.

There down 2-0. Haven't won since the 2nd week of the season. Haven't beat milan in 11 years. I am and will me negative. Sorry.

who are the subs today?  didn't see a list...

I dont know what to say anymore. We are a joke.

Heh... seriously, why the fuck not, let's make it happen. It's clear Zarate is no use to us when he is always trying to go solo all the fekkin time.

mauri out Cruz in, I really wonder whats gonna be

17.     Pasquale Foggia
21.    Simone Inzaghi
23.    Mourad Meghni
25.    Emílson Cribari
74.    Julio Cruz
87.    Modibo Diakite
88.    Tommaso Berni

This is going to be a very uncomfortable 2nd half . I suggest getting some dirty pictures up to help soften the torture.

Yeah yeah, but last game we were down 3-0 against the last team in la liga! And we are playing much better than that now, you have to see it from the positive side  i-beer
But honestly what did you think would be the situation before this match?

I think we need 4 defenders in January - forget about everything else - four defenders.  We areally haven't played that badly, but for our D. It's like having a bad goalie in hockey, the whole team plays differently - they have no confidence. I suspect that's partly what's happening here.


Anyway, Cruz in for Mauri. mah!

YOU ARE MY IDOL........FORZA LAZIO!!!!!!!!!!

Besides bad D, the main problem is lack of combination. I mean, M doesnt help D, and there is not much help from the M for Forwards. Every side of team plays apart.

Your right. But I want 4 mids as well.

So with Barretto, that would mean us buying an entire new team. Sounds good to me.

We'd be lucky to get 1 mid or 1 CB however.  iscarf1

Milan's attack looks like a lazy training ground exercise, the mid is just as important at slowing them down as the defence.

We have one good player on the field, just one... Lichtsteiner!

Nope, it's Rocchi. He does a better midfield job then our midfielders.

Btw, what kind of flawed tactic is to take away a midfielder, when our midfielder is being over-run? Ridiculous.

Every year its the samething against Milan. Lazio can't win in Serie A. So I already knew Lazio would and will lose against them. Thankfully Kaka is not playing or it would be a lot worse.

From here to January we should start a 5-3-1-1 - let's finish with 5 ties nd see what happens in the market.

Whenever the ball enters our box, espescially in the air, It seems as tough it's a grenade - guys in blueshirts running this way and that to avoid it at all costs. It's comical.

we are getting better chances though.

A tactic known as sheer desperation.

Siriously, Zarate sounds dont know how to passing

this game is being decided by the defence,  both sides have been in the box with chances the only difference is that their defenders know what they are doing

i never appreciate Cruz's contribution, he doesn't seem to do a lot...

Looks like we can find a goal I hope, playing better than first half...

Take Cruz to your badroom Lotito. Maybe there he`ll be worth something !

He'll have to join the queue. Tare is first in.

Thought Meghni ws hurt?

If you ask me, Zarate isn't worth 21 millions!

We should have bought 2 defenders a good striker and a playmaker with the money iconfused

I said as much... weeks ago...

Own goal. 2-1. There's hope.

Oddo looks so gay...

As I said, goal was near and scored, very lucky goal i-beer Now have chance for tie, come on guys

DID YOU SEE THAT? Zarate told the curva to shush, after scoring the luckiest goal all season!

The cheek of the guy  ieek

They all count, and it's the first piece of luck we've had since Beijing.

bit of luck for Lazio for once....

Oddo scores, and for Lazio again

mamma mia Zarate -almost evens it! e dajeeeeeee!

Grazie Oddo! sempre er capitano! i-beer

I like Zarate, always looks dangerous, just never passes...

hey zara PLZ shave your hair
it seems better you bee a bald man  iscarf1
whats zara mean when hes score the goal ???
he point to fans ???

now team is beleving, I can see that, come on come on, second goal isnt impossible, Forza Lazio 00

Zarate seems to say, stop criticizing and get up and support us....i agree with him - we haven't given up. Dajeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!1

At least the team is fighting. I`m glad to see that. Come on guys 
  09  09  00  09  09

a tie would be good, if we win i bet ballardini won't resign!

 i-wink

Matuzalem, wasted an oportunity ievil

Cribari for Siviglia?

Ohh it it will clearly make the difference. i-razz

You've lost your mind -he's all we got. Daje Maurito!

well, we won't see Foggia now...would have been good to see if he could help us get that second goal...

An undeserved defeat... playing well, whatever.

If we don't get something, Balla still has to go. The 2nd half performance should not save him.

The tie is coming. Milan looks tired and old now.

Meghni is playing well.....until he gets hurt...again.

Rocchi what a chance wasted.

come on Rocchi, should have been goal.

great scond half so far, come on come on guys...

come on Mr glass
greet maurad  pyro

Maybe Dida will give us a goal like he does sometimes.

Pirlo is a fairy!

What a save.

Great effort. Even better save

Its lazio's game now. The tie is coming.

can we score off a corner?

Not since Udinese last year, sunshine.

Lazio have to stop with these long shots. What a waste.

^^ Diakite, we were down three goals to tie -  I remember it well.

Will Lazio ever get any luck. A lucky bounce. Anything.

Yeah and there was also Ledesmas last goal for lazio ever.

I think pippo is dead...I can't believe it!

che cribarata! mamma mia!

He is always dead at least twice a game.

omg look at Cribaris passes, embarrassing!!

mamma mia Muslera!

Another huge save. But to late. Another lose.

Sorry guys.

But this 2nd half performance only serves to keep Balla for another week. Call me a dick but that pisses me off more then anything.  ievil

slid performance in the second half but not enough, still missing win ievil

Is this ref for real? He whistles the game over at less than the full three minutes after all the time wasting. Some things never change.

Anyway, another loss. i really don't know how to take this - half full, half empty or do we even own a glass...boh?

Once again 0 points.

is it me, or do we only seem to do well after a change or two? i feel as though he simply doesn't know how to organize a team to start a match.

Ballardini won't resign ievil

We played too good in the end...

For Lotito, the results are nor important.

Good second half. To many wasted chances. No one can score anymore. Why???

I agree with Theo...  Sad as it is, we need a new coach, so I almost wish we had played dreadfully to bring that about a bit quicker (almost, b/c I am relieved to see an improved performance)...  Maybe we will get our wish anyway... 

"I saw a great spirit in lazio in the 2nd half that proves to me a change of manager is not needed"

Quote unquote Lotito. Look out for it, it's coming  ievil

i wonder why ballamerda didnt used foggia??????????

Zarate 1 - Milan 2
SINISA is coming  09

Irregardless of the second half performance, the postion in the table says it all. We are in week 12 now, week 12. And we sit in 16th place. Dreadful doesnt begin to describe our situation, and the fixture list doesnt make it any easier. When its bad, it just spirals in football. Ballardini needs to go, fresh start and all that to give our team the necessary kick up the ass. Why, oh why, do we only start playing when the game is basically over.

  no sinisa my friend he's not coming!!! lotito is to idiot to sack ballardini and ballardini more idiot that lotito to resing!!!! simple as that!!!!

We are heading down guys. At least I saw a fight today which gives me a hope. Anyways,new couch. NOW !

I'm sick of losing games i-cry i-cry i-cry

yeah, in the second half, we deserved a tie. But, war( fight) must include a strategy, which is something coach should provide. We attacked unconsciously, thats the fact.

exactly.

At least we will be the best team in Serie B next season.

We didn't play very poor infect there were times that we looked like, well in the better days. I saw one thing today, we need far more new defenders then new coach. Sivgla, Cribari, Radu and Kolarov are so bad at defending that even primavera kids can kick our ass. Miserable. So new coach before the NT break and whole new defense line.

 Forza Lazio forever and never, go go wild dances  00

Only if Lotito resign.

http://goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2009/11/08/1612603/lazio-issue-press-silence-and-ritiro-after-defeat-to-milan


could be that Ballardini will not be sacked...

I think that the problem the team due to lack of defenders on a high-level

Lotito assume all these problems .. We sell Rozehnal need it  ievil
 



Balardini to Aithml nothing at all


Loss on confusing the team I wish a quick return to winning ways


Forza Lazio  09

post of the week for sure... Now, Lotito will have something to praise, " We win Serie B, another success in Lazio history "- Lotito !!!

Just got home and had to miss the game since I was at niagara falls for the weekend. I'm glad I missed yet another loss. Not really a surprise but at least the scoreline wasn't embarassing. Not only have Lazio failed to win in what seems like forever but can our strikers score ?

If this loss is not the catalyst to get rid of ballamerda than lo-stronso is really missing the boat. Even other media sources have been saying that this surely should be the end of balla's career .. clear to everyone.

On top of us still winless .. the merde are currently beating Inter .. this will not be a derby to look forward to.

I also missed the game. Unfortunately, if we were, as reports suggest, actually playing good football in the second half. By reading your posts I get the impression this could have just as well been a tie. So we just could not score as per flaming usual.

If we could have snatched a point off Milan I would have been very satisfied with the result no matter how we actually played. That would have been one point further away from the relegation zone. That is all I care about these days, basically, points.

I am pretty sick of Lazio's performances this season, I hope we get rid of Ballardini because he is useless but if we get Mihajlovic I will seriously kill myself, I don't want a racist, ex merda coaching our club. Someone said he know's about defending, if anyone watched him they will remember it was Nesta that got him out of jail time after time. I don't know about Beretta or Zeman but whoever comes in will have to put up with Lotito, so I don't reckon they'll be a queue of people for the job. I really feel sorry for Zarate, he tries so hard every match but no-one is up to his standard. I wouldn't hate him if he left for a team with genuine ambition, unlike us. Lotito, you are a fat wasteman, please sell the club!!

Guess what... you fail  icool

Sven was ex merda too. So you saying you hated all of that success? You are ridiculous.
Sinisa is the man for the job. Your the only one on this forum who doesn't think so.

Dude,you make Sinisa Hitler`s son ! Honestlly you are the first one I ever heard who dont agree that he was hell of a player. Maybe for a manager he is not that experienced but he learn from Mancini.

Indeed. MassiFederici, you are basically undermining Sinisa's tenure in SS Lazio and his status as a Lazio legend just because he was with Merda for two seasons in the past. To reject him on the grounds of racism is also fukking daft but I am sure you do not care.

Only reason he would not stay here is Lotito.  Losing this game was expected 100%, I would have been surprised at a draw early on, we came close, lucky bounce but still zero points.  They played well?? decent we did not get killed but whose to say Milan were not going full blast after 2-0.  Roma got a Draw against Inter, They are an inconsistent financial disaster too yet they still pull these off.  We have to be able to prevent headers like this, there is no contest otherwise.  The defenders cost us goals and our midfield costs us from generating enough chances for goals.

Racist? boh? At this point, I'll take the prince of darkness himself if he wins games. True that Sinisa was not the best defender -but the outside guys never really are - they're basically all midfielders with cannons - their job is to overlap and provide offensive support. Sinisa, like Kolarov, is lost in a weak defensive unit. We need CBs.

haha why are we debating if he was a good defender? Not like hes going to be on the field,  the best coaches are usually marginal players to begin with anyway...Sinisa is the man there is no one else at this point.

good point.

we had no chance in this match balla has failed technically, this team is disorganized, where heading towards serie b i have no confidence in this team. balla should have been sacked by now fuck you lotito. 

3 cheap goals in a nice match, it is not fun to look at the table now.

We would surely see another Milan in the second half, if the first one didnt finish 0-2, im saying that we were as poor in the second half as in the first one, just because Milan defended the score it doesnt mean that we played well, no we were awful

Reports say that after the final whistle Lotito entered in the Lockroom and confront with the players. Harsh words were told.
In the media came out piece of the talk between Balla and the players after Villa game, also in the lockroom.

"You're not a group. Everyone thinks on their own, some people are envious of others, are divided into small groups. Do not play more than the team." (Google translate -SHIT)

SO our team is very nervous, players care only about themselfs and from Zarate gesture you can see what is their attitude towards the fans.



Sad days...

Price of Darkness?  Do you mean Ossie Osborne?  That would be sweet... :-)

Zarate appologized after the game, he says he was simply upset at the constant jeering of some of his team mates. I still don't understand the point of creating such a negative atmosphere during a match.

C'mon, we played well in the second half - not nearly good enough as a whole, but we did play better. I don't think Milan was letting up - I'm sure they might have been playing differently if it was tied, but they are rather older and we were pushing after the changes. We very easily, and fairly could have tied that game, It' not like Milan were up 4 goals. We have to be able to give credit when and where credit is due.

I do. If the players ain't up to the task, let them know. I'm not a CN fanboy by any means but all of their actions this season I have supported. It's up to the players to buckle up their ideas and prove to the fans they are worth two shits in that jersey. It's part and parcel of football for crap players to be jeered. In my opinion, Rocchi is the only player immune form criticism, every other player has lacked what is required for us to perform well week in and week out.
I hope the jeering continues.

I don't think the jeering helps, I also don't think cheering helps either. The teams poor performance has nothing to do with the fan support whatsoever. I'm sure if we watched Bologna play Milan we might extract some optimistic points from the bolognas perspective. I understand losing to milan anyways. But the team is in crisis and I don't see a turnaround even if we won one or two games leading up until January. The solution is simple at this point .. a mercato blitz PLUS a new coach!!! Thinking any different is fantasy and ludicrous.

Jeering, at the last game. No way. The fans were very supportive for the whole game, well except those 5 min of silence for Gabbo.


Gabbo Vive.

Fans pay money to get into the game, so they are entitled to do as they please. Still, I heard mainly cheering yesturday, second half especially.

Why ain't you at work  bigrin

 bigrin Half day, preparing an amazon order  i-wink

 icool

what was on Lazio's Jersey this game? do we have a sponsor? or was this just another charity thing? 

Can't say if it was the CN or just some assholes, but there were some whistling players during the lineup at the start of the match. It's not a matter of cheering them to exculpate their bad play - but we need to avoid relegation.

Unless you believe crowd support means nothing this only hurts. It's not that the crowd has caused this (that's obvious) but creating a really negative atmosphere during games will not suit any purpose at all.

The Sponsor on the jersey was Paideia. Its Lazio's Medical Supply company. Lazio had the sponsor on there jersey for one match before against Catania. Its not there official sponsor for the whole season. Lazio seems to like having a different sponsor on there jersey instead of getting one good one for the whole season these days.
                                                      

Again, my point stands though. Lazio365 is right, the fans are entitled to do as they wish, they pay for their ticket. Just what are you expecting Imper, I have to ask. Look at the table ( I confess, I refuse to for weeks) and see where we are. Pitiful, embarrassing and infuriating are three words to describe it, there's a dictionary of others. What have the whistlers got to cheer about exactly? NOTHING. On the pitch, diddly squit.
Fans ain't robots, they can't be programmed to be emotionless vessels just to suit those useless cunts in the Lazio shirt. Yes a negative atmosphere doesn't help, but what other atmosphere can there possibly be?

Interestingly, I don't recall any avid whistling or jeering, just the odd echo, which would have been drowned out by the CN on a good day. I repeat, fans have every right to jeer and they can't be expected to do anything different, when, for the umpteenth time this season, we only perform when the game is practically impossible to win.

Precisely right. Any ground, any club, where the team is in a rut the boo's will come. Its only natural in my eyes, after all I see it as a reaction from the fans that they actually care, and ultimately hurt too at the current situation. The players should see this as an opportunity to turn this around, rather than winge about the fans affecting their performance. Win the fans over again, through effort and substance on the pitch. It doesnt help though, that all in all we really are poor in the central positions. Worst Lazio defence and midfield for years and years all said and done imo.

I think team needs to see past people jeering. The jeering can always from from the opposing teams fans and I'm not sure how professional this team is to be affected by it. If cheering didn't have an effect then jeering probably won't have an effect either. I think its safe to assume that this will continue until the team gets maximum points from a match. Lotito probably contributed to the loss of moral by damaging relationships that were strong over many years between scoring partners rocchi and pandev for example. I'm sure they all feel the ship is sinking and that of course isn't helping. As the tension gets higher with each winless game I don't expect moral to get any better between fans or players.

Support the colours - there's nothing good going on at the moment - and I understand the frustration. I was at the Chievo match last year when Cribari left the field crying under a hail of whistles (not mine)  but I understood, and fealt the frustration we were all feeling (as I said to a guy standing next to me - hey I flew 6000 km to watch this shit!). But there is a limit, I'm not saying the fans should be robots or ignore the pathetic excuse for football that we're currently subjected to - but whistling Mauri during the line up, or Cribari when he actually has the ball is just idiotic in my opinion. After the match, fine - but not during. that's all I'm saying.

You all can suck my balls ! i-beer I quote E.Cartman because of the fact that I predicted the exact scoreline for this match(the proof is in page #4) and this is second time in a roll(the first one was for Lazio vs Villa in EL)  but I didn't got the time to throw it in your face  bigrin because of my tight agenda(yesterday I was at concert of the famous Macedonian pianist Simon Trpcevski -he was brilliant as always BTW)

I've decided to be brief in my next comments from now on because I'm so pissed from the whole mess that Lazios in! disappointment after disappointment...and it's all Lotitos fault(the bad summer mercato,the dissidents issue and the whole Lazio management in general)!
I'm starting with the short comments in my very next post that will be on this very same topic!  i-surp

Lazio is shit! Lotito dumb!  ievil

I have never not understood what your saying...  but Cribari won't have the ball at the end of the match, so we can't boo him then. And we won't see Mauri. He'll be reading the kindergarten guide, volume 3, season 3 of "How to go from Azzurri to Asswipe."
By saying we shouldn't boo or jeer players during the game is accepting the mediocrity that is in front of us. Simple as that. We can't manage the team like that nobhead Ballardini, so what can we do? Show our displeasure towards situations in the game, during the game, is all that fans can do. Your suggesting Imper to take that away. Nobody may as well turn up to watch Lazio then anymore, or any other club. It's what part of being a fan is about. Right or wrong, helpful or not... I'd far rather S.O be full of whistlers and jeers then people with heads in their clouds not facing the reality of the situation.  iconfused

POST OF THE WEEK

Power to the people  i-beer

You guys either have a short memory or haven't been watching Lazio for as long as I have. Don't you remember Sinisa regularly getting sent off for ill discipline and the monkey incident with Vieira, or the gypsy incident with Mutu? Is that really the guy that you want leading this club? Sure he took a good free kick and his first couple of years at Lazio were good but he was more trouble than he was worth. I'm sure Lazio would have more supporters if its name wasn't tarnished with the racist element of a small minority, a minority which players like Mihajlovic was an on the field representative. His spell as Bologna manager wasn't exactly successful, he lasted all of 5 months and fell out with a number of the senior players according to Wikipedia. You guys defend him for being ex merda, yet in the same breath always seem to slam Siviglia for being ex merda? You might take note that Siviglia, as shit as he is only "played" 5 games for Rioma whereas Mihajlovic played over 50. Don't you think we need an experienced manager to take us out of this mess? If we experiment we will only end up in Serie B.

That doesn't make any sense at all. Bizarre opinion that is.


Doesn't matter. People who have been supporting them for 5 minutes know more about them then you do, apparantly.


I slag off Siviglia because he is shit. Simple as that. I bet everyone else does as well.



You rely on wikipedia to help you make points. Clearly we should all bow down to you.


Yes


Like who? Find one then. Who the fuck from the international scene is going to quit their job and manage us? Or, what ex international manager is going to ask for a cheap salary that Lotito will be happy to pay?

I don't know what planet your from... but keep up the ridiculous posts, I enjoy ripping them to shreds.

Everyone knows that he is temperamental. It is true that he was usually playing 1 game and watch next 2 (because of the red cards) but you can`t say that Lazio would have more supporters if he never joined us.Thats ridicoulos. I personally would like to see Sinisa on our bench especially for his personality and also because he used to work with Mancini and also because he is a Lazio legend. Forget about experienced good manager cause with Lotito that will never happen.First he is to cheap to pay and second I cant name one good manager who is retarded enough to screw up his career with beeing puppet to someone who dont now shit about football but still deciding for everything.
 Now,maybe Sinisa is not that expensive and also he love this club but he can`t work with Lotito.PERIOD!
  

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Are you done yet? If you want to cry about racism, there are other places to do it.

Ok Theo, since you know SO much about this subject how many games did Mihajlovic actually win as manager of Bologna? If we actually wanted a Lazio legend to come back we should try and get Diego Simeone, do you really think he is earning millions over in Argentina? He was a real Lazio legend, always giving 100% and not getting sent off petulance or spitting unlike Mihajlovic. He, unlike Mihajlovic has actually had success as a manager and has stated that he would love to manage Lazio in the future. As much a we need someone with defensive knowledge (although I really question if that is Mihajlovic...) we also need someone who knows the midfield. Just because I have a different opinion to you guys about the direction of the club doesn't need people to get riled up and their knickers in a twist....

Not when racism has held back our club, Thuram would have joined us from Parma but didn't because of an element within CN. Why haven't we had a shirt sponsor for over 3 years? Maybe some companies don't want to be associated with a side that has openly received negative press about racism. You guys can gloss over it if you want and maybe just accept it but its wrong and it has hurt our club.

Mihilovic has coaching experience in Italy, was assistant to Mancini at Inter which is a big club in champions league and scudetto winners.  I don;t know how he will do here all I know with Balla its all the same, the other coaches are all as poor options as Balla so if he is the front runner why is there a problem?  Problems with the senior players happens all the time as it did with Rossi, I see that as a plus.  Get these lazy sacks of shit moving, if they complain like mauri, ledesma stendardo have done in the past because of lack of playing time well good since they don;t deserve to start anyway.  We need a coach that works for the fans and gets these players working all as a team instead of individuals.    

^^ANd for lack of sponsors thats bullshit, how many companies out there use immoral business practices, they don;t give a shit about racism or what the curva or its players do, as long as there is a large following that will see the sponsor ad is all they care about.  Its Lotito being retarded that we don;t have a sponsor.  An with racsim, Juve, Inter and Roma have all had incidents in the recent past.

I agree he has experience as an assistant but I would put that success as Mancini's, not Miha's. You look at Mancio's record and he has done well at every club he has managed, even when he was at Lazio with limited resources he was great. His leadership on and off the field is what we lack now, Eriksson dropped Lazio's highest ever goal scorer to use Mancio and it won us a Scudetto (although you could argue that 1999/00 wasn't his best year as a player). If a large following was all companies cared about I'm sure we'd have a sponsor, Lazio has the 6th largest fanbase in Italy. I'm sure Lotito being a tosser hasn't helped but if we were an attractivemarketing prospect we'd have a sponsor by now.

Massi, of course we all remember those incidents -but I wouldn't trust either Veira or Mutu as far as I could throw them - so i take it with a grain of salt. I agre Sinisa ain't the best possible option (I'd take Mancini or Simeone in a heartbeat over Sinisa). The problem is who are we likely to get instead of him - Beretta, Giordano, the guy from Torino?.... please God NO! I'll take Sinisa against those options. Now if the others are available....no thanks to Sinisa.

As for racism - I think you are overstating it a bit. Thuram claims he never refused to come to Lazio. We have the same problems any other team in Europe does - it was simply reported more often a few years ago - but since then? not so much.

Even Hellas Verona, in Serie C1, have a sponser, and they are renouned, rightly or wrongly, to have a right wing fan base. The lack of a shirt sponser in this day an age is ludicrous and yet another failing of the current management. After the incident in 2000, we didnt have trouble with sponsorship then so again, the current management has to take accountability here imo.

As for the incident with Viera, abuses was flowing both ways from all reports so he was hardly an innocent party.

I see your point MassiFederici and I'll admit Mihajlovic isn't perfect. But at the moment what I really want to see at Lazio is a passionate crazy person who tells the players they are killing this club by performing like they are now. And really no better options are available, Beretta or Giampaolo are no better then what we have now, and guys like Mancini are out of our reach.

MassiFederici, it is all the other "French" people and their henchmen like you who still to this day persist Thuram rejected Lazio on the grounds of racism. Sorry for being offensive but if you churn out bullshit I allow myself to do so as well.

I readily admit if Sinisa is a racist I like him even better BUT if he does not lead us to victories he can be sent off to Madagascar for all I care. I would not start defending him for arbitrary reasons but you would not give him a chance to begin with because of your prejudice, moral concerns or whatever. That much is obvious. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.

I think you should do some non wikipedia research if you want to 'take me on' so to speak. Everybody on this forum knows my top 5 for the managerial position, if you took the time, which you didn't, to read the real thread on this ("new coach") then you would see that my top 5 is there. Top of that top 5, is Simeone, I don't need to be told about him.

If you don't want Sinisa as manager, ok, but could it not be for some real reason. I have no idea the facts and figures about his win loss record at Bologna, but he was barely there so obviously he lost far more then he won. But really, are we now going to judge a manager based on one damn job that he had? Look at Prandelli, crap in his first manager job at Atalanta, and look how great he has become. Furthermore, look at Ballardini's 'wonderful' record then if you wish. Shame he is so shit for us eh  icool

The racism card doesn't wash, that's in the past, somewhere you seem to be firmly stuck in, and as others have said, there's two sides to every story, and Vieira was at fault too for the events in that game. That's no part in the discussion. I don't give a fuck about what political beliefs or sociological issues our prospective manager may have. All I want is the best man for the job. Mancini we can't afford, and he wants bigger things then us right now. So imo, the best and or most viable is the top 5 list I put together.
You've got some deep rooted hate for one of our great players and you haven't convinced me that Sinisa isn't the man. He knows the club, the fans respect him.. what more can we want?

Wiki - Rulez  icool

I TOTTALLY AGRREEEE...I love you man... i-beer lfwaver

Good for my ego. Thanks.  bigrin

GOCEEEEEEEEEEEEE....I HATE UR AVATRRRRRRR...NO OFFENCE  i-beer

another weeks, ...another same shitt..what you expect apart from jeering and whistleee...cheers, theo.. i-beer lfwaver

Whats wrong with my avatar? Do you have something about gay people ?!?! Let them kissing man,they are not doing anything against you except ruining your club  i-beer

Anyways, I have a favour to ask. Someone who is good with photoshop to remove the trophy from my profile photo?   THEO? JOFO? LATIUS?

I don't have a photoshop installed. Shame, I'd love to replace that trophy with a picture of a turd or something. icool

Try the pesky Macedonian...

you're talking about JoFO or me?  i-razz

I can give it a shot.. im OK with photoshop. PM me the link to the original photo. What do you want to replace the trophy with .. tare ?

This is the last photo I photoshopped:

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 http://tmwnetwork-storage.tccstatic.com/storage/lalaziosiamonoi.it/img_notizie/thumb/1249920320Supercoppa_Ballardini1.jpg

There you go bro and thanks a lot. Use your imagination about replacing a trophy but make it DISGUISTING please. Thanks again.

You should move Lotito's head to the middle and put Tare's head on Lotito's body.

we should give them a lesson that we're more creative than them..hahaha..start from this avatar....hahahah i-beer

yep they both look like faggots.