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« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2010, 10:50:16 AM »

- everyone of our players are trash bins except when they score, then they're great.
- every player who has a bad game, has always been crap.
- Lotito is responsible for everything, except if we happen to win something - then it was just luck.
- The only players worth signing are ones who are currently considered to be the best in the world, otherwise, they too are trash bins.


Its as clear as day to me that the vast majority of this squad are inadequate for a club that should be pushing for a European place. Really, Livorno game aside, we have scored more than one goal against only Chievo if memory serves in the league. One major problem with Lotito is that he never learns from his mistakes. Mistakes of lack of investment before European campaigns, mistakes of replacing players with inadequate signings, or worse, players that have spent the most of their career in Serie B so I feel more than comfortable attriubuting most of the blame at his door, not for today but for inadequate league campaigns for the last three seasons.

As well, I don't recall many suggesting Floccari was one of the best in the world before he arrived, but most were happy to have him in the squad. It would be the same with Zapater, Canini, Cigarini as well who are not among the worlds best but are quality additions that would benefit us.
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« Reply #106 on: January 17, 2010, 10:58:45 AM »

Nothing to add, just another weak and another shameful performance, i got used to this already, lotito is a son of a whore and this team needs reinforcements, but obviously nothing is gonna happen in the near future, lotito delayed the death of this club so that it can be tortured some more, just waint and hope for a miracle, maybe today lotito will die in a car accident and we will get rid of him
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« Reply #107 on: January 17, 2010, 11:06:59 AM »


- everyone of our players are trash bins except when they score, then they're great.
- every player who has a bad game, has always been crap.
- Lotito is responsible for everything, except if we happen to win something - then it was just luck.
- The only players worth signing are ones who are currently considered to be the best in the world, otherwise, they too are trash bins.

Attacks from both sides, ay Imper  

To add to what has been said already.

1st point. Your top point applies to striker yes.. because that is what they are expected to do.. no? Likewise midfielders, if they could chip in now and again with a goal, espeically if they have a free shot like Mauri against Udinese, a goal would be appreciated. I don't remember anyone criticizing our defence for not scoring. Likewise Baronio. People get criticized if they do their jobs correctly with some ability or not, that's the be all and end all. I will compliment people for doing other things other then scoring if the situation arises.... say, Zarate getting an assist? Which he barely hasen't done more then a few times. First point, verdict DENIED.

2nd.
That applies to Baronio and Firmani, who have always been crap, you going to deny that? IMO it also applies to Del Nero, Mauri, etc etc, take your pick. IMO, Zarate is over-rated and crap this season... just like you accuse people of saying someone is crap all the time if they have one bad game... it seems to me you are saying Zarate is great because of ONE good game this season. That's all he's had this season imo, so your commiting a crime as well. Verdict DENIED.

3. Lotito is responsible for the players that go onto that pitch, that is true., Tactics and organization is Balla, whilst performance is a mixture of Balla and the players themselves.
I ask you what Lotito has achieived that you call success. Coppa Italia win? Your a fool if you think Lotito is some sort of a god because we won that. Need I remind you we won on penalties? I'm sorry but it could so easily have gone the other way, we could have lost the shoot-out. I know we didnt, but come on, this cannot be denied. And everyone knows about the horseshoes involved in the Super Coppa win... so to criticize people for saying luck is a part of it is no worse then you bitching at referee's for changing the course of the game, which you have done often this season.

4. I have nothing to add other then what Lazio365 said. Most of us realise we won't get World Class players.. but neither do we want Maxi Lopez, Del Prado... we want good players who can become great, more like Floccari.
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« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2010, 11:07:12 AM »

Though I feel that to a certain extent Ballardini was not set up to win much by Lotito, and the players he have generally played poorly, I think it's over for him. He simply has the stench of a loser and that's hard to get rid of - even if he had the roster of Barcelona i think he'd find ways to lose at this point.

In any event, a change is neede to give evryone a shake - it has to happen
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To be completely honest the time has passed to fire Ballardini.  This should have occured anytime from us going 12 straight without victory to the 2 week holiday break.  From now on we must be forced to live with this guy until the end of the mercato.  If we pull him now we loose Floccari who came based on how much he was sought after at the request of Ballardini.  Also if we are in the process of "chasing" players by firing Ballardini now it shows an unstable franchise not worthy of really acquiring anything.  The last statement is actually true because our team and its society is a disaster, but we don't need others seeing this first hand. That move right now just doesn't make sense
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« Reply #109 on: January 17, 2010, 11:16:53 AM »

What a nightmare game...  

Fact 1: Have a midfield don't mean win games, but without midfield it's "impossible" win games!
Fact 2: Lazio don't have a fucking midfield! Our "midfield" are Mauri, Brocchi, Firmani and Baronio, who's the most joke?  
Fact 3: The players are unhappy and unmotivated, inside the field appears lost rabbits, have Lazio a tactic?
Fact 4: Like Theo said, Lazio is the only team in the last 7 places on the tabble that don't changed coach, what the hell are Lotito waiting for? Change coach when Lazio go to Serie B? ...
Fact 5: Lotito have more two weeks to buy reinforcements for the team, but of course he don't buy anyone because everything was good for him.
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« Reply #110 on: January 17, 2010, 11:27:29 AM »

Fact 2: Lazio don't have a fucking midfield! Our "midfield" are Mauri, Brocchi, Firmani and Baronio, who's the most joke?  

Surely not Roberto "I bring you the moon" Baronio?
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« Reply #111 on: January 17, 2010, 11:52:36 AM »

The argument of blaming players and coach barring out Lotito is legitimate for a game or two but not for this long.  If something is periodically wrong then its up to the president to fire and rehire, to sign and release and to provide some framework into the direction of this squad.  Ultimatley to fix things and act when in crisis.   

Coach's fault - he has failed 1/2 a season does he get fired no = Lotito's Fault
Defence is poor - has been the case for season's now and we sell rozenhal = Lotito's Fault
The Midfield - No explanation Needed = Lotito's Fault
Strikers -  Congradulation we have some good stikers too bad the rest of the team is not up to par to provide chances = Lotito's fault

The Market - Failed before CL, failed before EL, failing now to address the problems of this team in in a crisis = Lotito's fault
Money Management - Spend everything on a prospect in Zarate without other investments i.e all eggs in one basket approach = Lotito's Fault
Handling Players - Lose Pandev for $0 and while paying him to sit in the stands, Repeat Now possible with Ledesma = Lotito's Fault
The Books are balanced - Success now measured on profit not league standings or accomplishments = Lotito's Fault
Using a single accomplishement as propaganda and reason for changing nothing = Lotito's fault

Years ago the team would be build around pandev for great future succees and our great prospects, now again its zarate and a whole new set of prospects some of which are already complaining about coaching, money, and about moving to bigger clubs and some underperforming.   

I agree with Lazio365 here repeated mistakes abound.  No sense of urgency at all thats why Lazio have been spinning tires for the last few seasons. 
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« Reply #112 on: January 17, 2010, 12:10:57 PM »

O my fucking god. Was that the worst Lazio game of this season?!?!

I can't blame one single individual, we failed as a team. 3-4-3 doesn't work there can't be tridente with no creative mid or at least quality trequartista. Forget about saying that at least the defense is ok, it isn't. Mid is worse. I don't know what should be our goal on mercato, maybe whole new team.

Ffs I pull my hair out, what the fuck we've became. I'm so angry at the moment I can barely speak.
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« Reply #113 on: January 17, 2010, 01:14:22 PM »

Fact 2: Lazio don't have a fucking midfield! Our "midfield" are Mauri, Brocchi, Firmani and Baronio, who's the most joke?  

Surely not Roberto "I bring you the moon" Baronio?

The self Roberto "I will show you a good pass" Baronio.   
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« Reply #114 on: January 17, 2010, 01:15:54 PM »

The argument of blaming players and coach barring out Lotito is legitimate for a game or two but not for this long.  If something is periodically wrong then its up to the president to fire and rehire, to sign and release and to provide some framework into the direction of this squad.  Ultimatley to fix things and act when in crisis.   

Coach's fault - he has failed 1/2 a season does he get fired no = Lotito's Fault
Defence is poor - has been the case for season's now and we sell rozenhal = Lotito's Fault
The Midfield - No explanation Needed = Lotito's Fault
Strikers -  Congradulation we have some good stikers too bad the rest of the team is not up to par to provide chances = Lotito's fault

The Market - Failed before CL, failed before EL, failing now to address the problems of this team in in a crisis = Lotito's fault
Money Management - Spend everything on a prospect in Zarate without other investments i.e all eggs in one basket approach = Lotito's Fault
Handling Players - Lose Pandev for $0 and while paying him to sit in the stands, Repeat Now possible with Ledesma = Lotito's Fault
The Books are balanced - Success now measured on profit not league standings or accomplishments = Lotito's Fault
Using a single accomplishement as propaganda and reason for changing nothing = Lotito's fault

Years ago the team would be build around pandev for great future succees and our great prospects, now again its zarate and a whole new set of prospects some of which are already complaining about coaching, money, and about moving to bigger clubs and some underperforming.   

I agree with Lazio365 here repeated mistakes abound.  No sense of urgency at all thats why Lazio have been spinning tires for the last few seasons. 

i wonder what lotito's mom says when she read it,and what she says to her beloved son...lmao  
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« Reply #115 on: January 17, 2010, 01:48:10 PM »

 “In the first 15 minutes we simply were not on the field. After that at least we put some effort in, but in order to improve we need to bring in reinforcements.”
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« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2010, 02:09:20 PM »

What Ballardini says is absolutely true, though, innit? He is not making excuses and the message is crystal clear.
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« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2010, 02:27:38 PM »

@ sixty one thousand five hundred and fourteen.


Yes he keeps yapping on about reinforcements. But I'm sick of his post match bullshit. Can you think of any positives today? I can't. Nobody played well. End of. He is capable of berating people in public i.e Diakite and Zarate, so why the whole team after a shit result? He's a tosser.
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« Reply #118 on: January 17, 2010, 03:15:12 PM »

I couldn't watch more than 15 minutes of the match because of the fucking lag but this result make me sick to my stomach! It ruined the whole day for me! How can we be devastated from a team that is one of the favourites for the relegation?! And only before 10 minutes have passed we were two behind! It is very worrying! From what I saw (as I already said 15-16 minutes) we fully deserved to be behind. Most of the players didn't know where they were. As many people said many many times: if we don't get some players (especially midfielders) we can be involved again in relegation fight. And from what I'm reading we weren't any better in the other 75 minutes that I didn't have the "honour" to watch. Lotito pls bring some midfiledrs, u bastard!
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« Reply #119 on: January 17, 2010, 03:58:01 PM »

@ Theo

Well, if you want Balla to declare we are shit and castigate the team in public then understandably you are not satisfied. My point was that this post-match statement was not really bullshit per se. Just a simple, honest laconic statement about the state of things today and beyond. Basically, he is saying that the team was not there today and is going nowhere soon. See what I mean? But that is not very important at all. When talking about the game itself I cannot really think of too many positives. I did not expect a loss against Atalanta. Mauri in only in the second half and the absence of Makinwa probably cost us a win.
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