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« Reply #135 on: October 05, 2009, 06:46:36 AM » |
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And, as a side note, Theo, you're quite 'entertaining'!
If that was sarcasm, shove it  If it wasen't, thanks. I'm not trying to be entertaining however, I'm trying to be realistic, and I'm easily angered by some peoples on this forum and how they go about posting. I'd consider our team great if only the scoreline would back it up. Really our best 11 players ??? i'd say even our best 11 players have 6 that are mediocre and much to prove. I don't mean to come down on the team so much lazio have more to prove than with just 1 victory.
Why would I say Sampdoria is better because statistically they are this season. 2nd place, 16 points, and a win against Inter .. thats not a fluke. Words. table can be a gimmick..............i guess u have looked at the mirror b4 and ur face was distorted.
The end will tell.
That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans  but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. Its simple. Just because you spend most of your time supporting fucking Liverpool, and you feel they belong higher then 5th, guess what, they deserve to be where they are, just as we do. |
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« Reply #136 on: October 05, 2009, 07:34:44 AM » |
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And, as a side note, Theo, you're quite 'entertaining'!
If that was sarcasm, shove it If it wasen't, thanks. I'm not trying to be entertaining however, I'm trying to be realistic, and I'm easily angered by some peoples on this forum and how they go about posting. I'd consider our team great if only the scoreline would back it up. Really our best 11 players ??? i'd say even our best 11 players have 6 that are mediocre and much to prove. I don't mean to come down on the team so much lazio have more to prove than with just 1 victory.
Why would I say Sampdoria is better because statistically they are this season. 2nd place, 16 points, and a win against Inter .. thats not a fluke. Words. table can be a gimmick..............i guess u have looked at the mirror b4 and ur face was distorted.
The end will tell.
That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. Its simple. Just because you spend most of your time supporting fucking Liverpool, and you feel they belong higher then 5th, guess what, they deserve to be where they are, just as we do. You are really nasty and i think u have fun saying things.......Enjoy it! |
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« Reply #137 on: October 05, 2009, 12:40:19 PM » |
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Aquile--- I want Lazio to win every game but....to be upset with a draw at Fiorentina is a little unrealistic. You have every right to be upset but we're not in the same class as Fiorentina.
Theo--- I was being sarcastic. Why so angry? Deep breaths. We all love Lazio just as much as you do.
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« Reply #138 on: October 05, 2009, 01:33:44 PM » |
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If that was sarcasm, shove it If it wasen't, thanks. I'm not trying to be entertaining however, I'm trying to be realistic, and I'm easily angered by some peoples on this forum and how they go about posting. That's the Theo we know and love! |
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« Reply #139 on: October 05, 2009, 01:51:56 PM » |
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Meh, the table in general doesnt lie but after just week seven its rather academic. Inter top, thats about right. Atalanta bottom, on current form thats about right in the context of the seven rounds played so far. But, when two teams play for 90 minutes anything can happen so in those 90 minutes the table can be left aside. Personally, I will start worrying about the table in November/ December when more rounds have been played and the true path of this team becomes a little clearer. Its early days, and one win could see us move up to 6th but so what. At this stage, its all about picking up points and we are doing that under a new manager who is only just getting to know the team and the ideas he has for it. I have little complaint with yesturday. If anyone really thought we would go to Florence and outplay a team with at that moment a 100% home record and a huge win against Liverpool then maybe they should step out of their dream world.
Sampdoria? Yeah, they have been excellent. They look a solid side but they only have the league to focus on. That makes them dangerous, and I fancy them to do very well this season. But they are certainly not unbeatable. They struggled against Atalanta away, scored only in the dying embers of their away trip to Catania and lost in Florence. We can win this game if we set out in the right manner.
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« Reply #140 on: October 05, 2009, 02:31:45 PM » |
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Sampdoria? Yeah, they have been excellent. They look a solid side but they only have the league to focus on. That makes them dangerous, and I fancy them to do very well this season. But they are certainly not unbeatable. They struggled against Atalanta away, scored only in the dying embers of their away trip to Catania and lost in Florence. We can win this game if we set out in the right manner.
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Exactly Samp have only the league to worry about so they can excel more unlike Lazio who barely has a team for the league let alone uefa where we really haven't faced stiff competition yet. I think we're due for a win but a win wouldn't skew my perception of how bad I think this team is right now. I think we've had a pretty easy start to the season with the teams we've played and we're sitting in 11th place. Sure everything can change in a good stretch of games but we still have to face teams that unfortunately are ahead of us and deserve to be there. Set aside any bias and forget historical patterns in the table, actually watch other teams and you'll realize this team doesn't look any better than these teams and its not just bad luck. I was already disgruntled after lotito fucked up the mercato, i expected this and this pattern we're going through. |
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« Reply #141 on: October 05, 2009, 02:50:41 PM » |
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That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. I'm sorry but that year we weren't the 3rd best team in the league. We didn't deserve to be in the CL especially after lotito made his amazing summer market moves bringing such amazing talents to the team as delnero and vignaroli. That year was pure luck for us because Juve was in B, milan and fiorentina both had more points deducted than us. Here's the 2006 table for you: Inter 97 Rioma 75 Lazio 62 (deducted 1 point) Milan 61 (deducted 8 points) Fiorentina 58 (deducted 15 points) |
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« Reply #142 on: October 05, 2009, 03:06:29 PM » |
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That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. I'm sorry but that year we weren't the 3rd best team in the league. We didn't deserve to be in the CL especially after lotito made his amazing summer market moves bringing such amazing talents to the team as delnero and vignaroli. That year was pure luck for us because Juve was in B, milan and fiorentina both had more points deducted than us. Here's the 2006 table for you: Inter 97 Rioma 75 Lazio 62 (deducted 1 point) Milan 61 (deducted 8 points) Fiorentina 58 (deducted 15 points) Cmon mate, your one of the good guys, don't make me hate you  Only joking. Who can forget Lotito's mess that season, or this for that matter. But I also remember Lazio's 8 game winning streak or whatever it was, almost equalling the record set by the 2000 team. Rocchi and Pandev were on fire, it was Mauri's best season for us (he's only good season..  ) and Cribari was solid as anything. It was Juve's fault they were in B, not ours and to be fair, 4 points clear of Fiorentina and 1 of Milan does not suggest luck, it suggested that when we had to get a result, we did, and it mattered come the end of the season. We also played some super football. I look back on that season fondly. As for this year, your perfectly correct to look at the big picture and think, so what if we didn't lose to Fiorentina.. we're gonna have a crap season. Because we probably are, and it's also fair to demand that Lazio could beat teams properly with skill and tenacity and not scraping this that and the other. But with the current players out our disposal, and with a combination of this being one of Serie A's strongest years, means it won't happen as much as previous. Balla has been vocal in the press twice recently, saying that with the right investment, etc etc. All we can hope is that Lotito heeds. Latius, there's nothing we can do at all, except support our club, and hope for the best.. but for sure this is the most testing season of my patience I've ever had, I'll give you that.  |
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« Reply #143 on: October 05, 2009, 03:11:55 PM » |
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Sampdoria? Yeah, they have been excellent. They look a solid side but they only have the league to focus on. That makes them dangerous, and I fancy them to do very well this season. But they are certainly not unbeatable. They struggled against Atalanta away, scored only in the dying embers of their away trip to Catania and lost in Florence. We can win this game if we set out in the right manner.
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Exactly Samp have only the league to worry about so they can excel more unlike Lazio who barely has a team for the league let alone uefa where we really haven't faced stiff competition yet. I think we're due for a win but a win wouldn't skew my perception of how bad I think this team is right now. I think we've had a pretty easy start to the season with the teams we've played and we're sitting in 11th place. Sure everything can change in a good stretch of games but we still have to face teams that unfortunately are ahead of us and deserve to be there. Set aside any bias and forget historical patterns in the table, actually watch other teams and you'll realize this team doesn't look any better than these teams and its not just bad luck. I was already disgruntled after lotito fucked up the mercato, i expected this and this pattern we're going through. To be honest, your spot on. Personally, if we finish inside the top half considering our squad and considering the demands we have in terms of competitions we have done well. Its obvious that the investment in the squad is lacking in key areas, but the questions that intrigue me this season is 1. Will our younger stars, Kolarov, Muserla, Zarate, Foggia, Diakite, Lich go from strength to strenght and 2. Can Ballardini iron out the inconistencies from last season? Delio Rossi could not do that, he could not find consistency at all. If our best players can improve, and I see no reason why they can't, and if Ballardini can find the best formula for the team, then maybe, just maybe, good things will happen. |
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« Reply #144 on: October 05, 2009, 03:13:24 PM » |
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Theo, as per your new found signature, I can only draw quotation from the great Oswald Spengler:
"Pessimism is merely that of the weakling" which corresponds to "Optimism being a reflection of cowardice".
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« Reply #145 on: October 05, 2009, 03:34:41 PM » |
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Achieving the final place for europa league next year through the league this time should be an expected objective by now, being in the top 10 by winter is fine but after that is again failure. At this point pessimism is the obvious reaction as we have all seen this before, we should be progressing faster and are yet still stalled. Optimism for this team is still based on a reliance that our future star players A. turn out to be the superstars we hope they are and B. Actually stay with the club. For this season however the winter market will determine success or failure.
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« Reply #146 on: October 05, 2009, 03:42:14 PM » |
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That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. I'm sorry but that year we weren't the 3rd best team in the league. We didn't deserve to be in the CL especially after lotito made his amazing summer market moves bringing such amazing talents to the team as delnero and vignaroli. That year was pure luck for us because Juve was in B, milan and fiorentina both had more points deducted than us. Here's the 2006 table for you: Inter 97 Rioma 75 Lazio 62 (deducted 1 point) Milan 61 (deducted 8 points) Fiorentina 58 (deducted 15 points) Cmon mate, your one of the good guys, don't make me hate you Only joking. Who can forget Lotito's mess that season, or this for that matter. But I also remember Lazio's 8 game winning streak or whatever it was, almost equalling the record set by the 2000 team. Rocchi and Pandev were on fire, it was Mauri's best season for us (he's only good season.. ) and Cribari was solid as anything. It was Juve's fault they were in B, not ours and to be fair, 4 points clear of Fiorentina and 1 of Milan does not suggest luck, it suggested that when we had to get a result, we did, and it mattered come the end of the season. We also played some super football. I look back on that season fondly. As for this year, your perfectly correct to look at the big picture and think, so what if we didn't lose to Fiorentina.. we're gonna have a crap season. Because we probably are, and it's also fair to demand that Lazio could beat teams properly with skill and tenacity and not scraping this that and the other. But with the current players out our disposal, and with a combination of this being one of Serie A's strongest years, means it won't happen as much as previous. Balla has been vocal in the press twice recently, saying that with the right investment, etc etc. All we can hope is that Lotito heeds. Latius, there's nothing we can do at all, except support our club, and hope for the best.. but for sure this is the most testing season of my patience I've ever had, I'll give you that. Although a lot of my comments are redundant (pretty much after every dissapointing game we have), they always come from my bitter heart. Your right .. thick or thin we support the club and we should all be on the same page in that respect... respect eachother... and hate the merda! Love your signature ..haha! Cheers! |
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« Reply #147 on: October 05, 2009, 04:25:34 PM » |
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Come to think about it... Fiorentina never had good luck against us. A few years ago, Zauri used his arm to block a must-in goal (similar to what Radu did, but with his arm), and the ref didn't see it. Dejavu.
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« Reply #148 on: October 06, 2009, 05:14:49 AM » |
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That really is complete nonsense. The cake is a lie, portal fans but the table is not. The table has never lied. When we qualified for CL, we really were the 3rd best team in the league that year. This season, Sampdoria are above us by some difference because they play better and have got more points - they have had equally difficult games to us, and got more points out of them. I'm sorry but that year we weren't the 3rd best team in the league. We didn't deserve to be in the CL especially after lotito made his amazing summer market moves bringing such amazing talents to the team as delnero and vignaroli. That year was pure luck for us because Juve was in B, milan and fiorentina both had more points deducted than us. Here's the 2006 table for you: Inter 97 Rioma 75 Lazio 62 (deducted 1 point) Milan 61 (deducted 8 points) Fiorentina 58 (deducted 15 points) hahahahahahahahahaha that old man vignarolli was really a huge talent. I regret loosing him.....  It's a shame such a undiscovered mid-aged Wonder grand dad left us for some greek club. HE was pathetic....  as for the seasson, We really had luck with sertain circumstances such as juve's Fall to 2 division, but I really think that we played better then this seasson. WE beat the hell of riomma, the same was with palermo in Sicily!!! but we failed in the champions league cuz lotito really was bad in the mercato. I still can't beilieve how we dropped the 2 stage..... |
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Apparently Reja is looking to play a basic 4-4-2 formation for this game. This sounds goods. Except it appears that floccari has just caught that flu going around.
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