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« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2011, 09:27:43 PM » |
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I'm seeing a lot of comments on the forum I would love to agree, disagree, comment on but I just won't...This one hurt just as much as at the end of last season when I sat in CN and watched Totti parade his thumbs around. (in the back of my mind I honestly thought we gave them the scudetto) In times like these I need to retreat to my bed collect my thoughts and not spew out hatred on paper. I'll leave my full in depth comments for the next episode on Wednesday. However I will say one thing; Our actions today with the side-show of red cards was despicable. I won't name names but too many people on our own side should be held accountable. These actions are the things we are used to pointing the finger at them for. Instead we've completely lost our minds and instead of trying to score have reacted in a manner that is so unprofessional it almost makes all their actions look normal. Or better yet that Romans and the Roman derby is meant for anarchic behavior by both teams not just them. Today above all 5 derby losses in a row is the main point. No excuse could hide that this team (our opponents today) a team full of individuals and egos higher than the CN tower have the right mentality in this type of game to execute victory and instill fear amongst our 11 players... Every thing else just seems minuscule now...(C.L, EL, matches remaining) On a side note...Di Canio and Lotito had it out on mediaset after the game and now Lotito and his reps are preparing to use some legal leverage in suing Paolo.
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« Reply #91 on: March 14, 2011, 12:16:53 AM » |
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baggio I saw that video too, you know italian, could you give us a clue what was all the argue about between Uno di noi and merda? Thanks.
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« Reply #92 on: March 14, 2011, 12:33:08 AM » |
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I'm seeing a lot of comments on the forum I would love to agree, disagree, comment on but I just won't...This one hurt just as much as at the end of last season when I sat in CN and watched Totti parade his thumbs around. (in the back of my mind I honestly thought we gave them the scudetto) In times like these I need to retreat to my bed collect my thoughts and not spew out hatred on paper. I'll leave my full in depth comments for the next episode on Wednesday. However I will say one thing; Our actions today with the side-show of red cards was despicable. I won't name names but too many people on our own side should be held accountable. These actions are the things we are used to pointing the finger at them for. Instead we've completely lost our minds and instead of trying to score have reacted in a manner that is so unprofessional it almost makes all their actions look normal. Or better yet that Romans and the Roman derby is meant for anarchic behavior by both teams not just them. Today above all 5 derby losses in a row is the main point. No excuse could hide that this team (our opponents today) a team full of individuals and egos higher than the CN tower have the right mentality in this type of game to execute victory and instill fear amongst our 11 players... Every thing else just seems minuscule now...(C.L, EL, matches remaining) On a side note...Di Canio and Lotito had it out on mediaset after the game and now Lotito and his reps are preparing to use some legal leverage in suing Paolo. hahaha that host looks like he was going to shit himself
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« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2011, 12:38:22 AM » |
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Funny how he speaks on the background of rioma symbol, speaks for itself.
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« Reply #94 on: March 14, 2011, 12:56:42 AM » |
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Funny how he speaks on the background of rioma symbol, speaks for itself.
I'm not good with Italian, all i really get out of it is that Di Canio is talking about how Zarate cost Lazio $37 million and Lotito is saying that hes lying and doesn't know what he is talking about. Thats all i can understand im sure there are many more details.
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« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2011, 12:57:16 AM » |
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Edy Reja is partly at fault, i agree that his choices on strategy and late and substitutions made no sense. The players are equally responsible for not being able to finish as well. This team will not make CL, this team doesn't deserve europe at this point. Our attack is pretty much useless and we don't need today's game to make that opinion. Floccari & Zarate have been pretty useless all season and must be sold in the summer ... thats it!. I don't think it would have made a big difference but i would have brought in kozak earlier for the sole fact that we had like 100 corners this game and needed that giant in the box for his aerial skills. The team seemed sloppy with over-passing and reja's long ball strategy made no sense as we kept giving away posession. I would rather have hernanes work his way up the field than sculli and floccari chasing balls out of bounds. Udinese deserve the CL spot without question. They are better ... waaaaaay better! I think in that thread about why this team is better than last years the reality is luck might be 50% of the reason. No excuses to blame on reffing, totti's antics or fucking lasers .. roma simply deserved victory and they got it. It was shit seeing totti score two goals on us of all people .. but although he most likely has no brain he had what our players lacked which was heart and the ability to finish. If we depend on sculli, floccari and zarate next season then this club is going nowhere... these are not starting players. Floccari and Zarate together haven't even scored as much as borrielo and he wasn't even on the pitch today. Lotito should have fought to bring in the much needed striker during mercato instead of making a minimal investment on sculli. LOTITO VATTENE! AVE PAOLO Di CANIO! 
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« Reply #96 on: March 14, 2011, 07:07:19 AM » |
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DiCanio says Lotito payed 37 million for an "overvalued" Zarate, Lotito denies it and threatens to sue him, in essence for defamation. It's pretty sad that whenever you hear about Paoletto, it's because he has something negative to say about Lotito or, worse, the team. We lost the derby and we have to hear this as well, seriously, that was the moment to start talking about finances?!? Mah!
As for the derby, ok we lost, but to simply piss away the rest of the season because we lost the derby is insane. It's ridiculous that it's even remotely acceptable for a team of pros to go into a spiral because they lost a derby. Particularly when we have much still to play for. In other cities where the derby matters, Milan, Manchester etc. they must look at this fatalistic attitude and shake their heads. It sucks to lose it, no question, but to give it such weight , to risk throwing away a season because of it? Fans of the big three say, this is why Lazio and riom will never be big teams because they simply can't keep their eyes on the big picture. I've come across the argument many times.
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« Reply #97 on: March 14, 2011, 10:54:36 AM » |
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As for the derby, ok we lost, but to simply piss away the rest of the season because we lost the derby is insane. It's ridiculous that it's even remotely acceptable for a team of pros to go into a spiral because they lost a derby. Particularly when we have much still to play for. In other cities where the derby matters, Milan, Manchester etc. they must look at this fatalistic attitude and shake their heads. It sucks to lose it, no question, but to give it such weight , to risk throwing away a season because of it? Fans of the big three say, this is why Lazio and riom will never be big teams because they simply can't keep their eyes on the big picture. I've come across the argument many times.
Like you, I am not throwing away the rest of the season either and I find it curious how the Derby loss brings emotions out of people and pushes the discussion in all kinds of directions, but, I find your speech extremely annoying. You make a worthwhile point until you start educating us on the arguments of the fans of the big three and considering the opinions of the people in Manchester. Please. Give me a fukking break.
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« Reply #98 on: March 14, 2011, 11:42:55 AM » |
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^^ my "speech" wasn't meant to be pedantic in any way, just sometimes someone makes a valid criticism of "us" and it makes sense. Manchester City doesn't risk throwing away an entire season because Rooney scored a nice goal at the end of a match to win a derby. We allowed them to condition our season already once, let's not do it again. Onward!
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« Reply #99 on: March 14, 2011, 12:13:19 PM » |
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DiCanio says Lotito payed 37 million for an "overvalued" Zarate, Lotito denies it and threatens to sue him, in essence for defamation. It's pretty sad that whenever you hear about Paoletto, it's because he has something negative to say about Lotito or, worse, the team. We lost the derby and we have to hear this as well, seriously, that was the moment to start talking about finances?!? Mah!
I'm with Paolo on this one. We have to start looking at ourselves. After the derby what do Reja and Lotito say? They blame the laser and Totti's antics? Did that really cost us the game? What about our attack who's closest effort was a shot/cross from Hernanes. Talking about throwing money away, especially since Lotito rarely takes up his wallet, is justifiable. Sculli was horrible as well. The Sculli = balls campaign is starting to make sense.
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« Reply #100 on: March 14, 2011, 12:18:37 PM » |
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How many of us, three years ago said, no don't sign Zarate? in fact the tone, if i remember correctly was something like "Lotito is a cheap bastard and he'll never sign Zarate....etc." He did, now he's a flop, and we want to find someone to blame.
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« Reply #101 on: March 14, 2011, 12:23:29 PM » |
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the zarate ordeal was kind of a lose-lose situation for Lotito when you think about it now. He absolutely had to keep him (and likely overpay) based on the breakout season he had, if he didn't he would be ridiculed for life beacause of it. Although I didn't expect Zarate to be this much of a flop, for him to match that first season here was nearly impossible.
These things happen in sports all of the time I don't see what use there is for di Canio to bring this to the forefront at this moment when the club has bigger things to worry about, ie. European qualification.
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« Reply #102 on: March 14, 2011, 01:03:35 PM » |
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The Derby is of great importance to both of the roman clubs for plenty of reasons and it's actually what makes it so unique and so much expected. Giving a big attention to it can hardly be called an argument for not becoming into bigger clubs, in fact it sound a bit more like a joke to me. There are far more valid reasons, we can start with the politics and end up with albanian cunts as sports directors. With regards to Di Canio, but he failed again to bash lotito with the right arguments, when he had the chance. Talking about Zarate? He could have talked about lotito's inability to run the club properly, while De Laurenits, a movie producer turns a Seria B outfit into classy team for much less time.
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« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2011, 04:20:11 PM » |
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^^ my "speech" wasn't meant to be pedantic in any way, just sometimes someone makes a valid criticism of "us" and it makes sense.
I do not agree with letting external forces dictate our approach to the Derby and you gave the impression you actually wanted to educate us about the opinions of outsiders as if to invalidate opinions of people with whom you were in disagreement. Very annoying, that. We allowed them to condition our season already once, let's not do it again. Onward!
Indeed. I could not agree more.
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« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2011, 07:00:42 PM » |
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It's interesting how not one player or coach said he was sorry for the result. Only Biava came half close to saying what we saw wasn't the true Lazio. You can't loose in the way you did. Where is the grinta? Where is the fighting spirit and the determination? Hell we’ve won derbies with the likes of Giannicheda and The Fillipini Bros @ our disposal. This was a team which def. had the talent to beat them but were more focused on not loosing. By grinta I don't mean falling for provocations from a pathetic man from the other team (who was the most well behaved I’ve ever seen him) or the referee BECAUSE THE ONLY ONE YOU HURT IS YOU & YOUR OWN TIFOSI. Instead of shaking hands with the riommers after every free-kick, what about using that grinta in the challanges ahead? Cowards!. You are nothing less than cowards and you don't deserve our support right now. I'm so f*ucking dissappointed in you. So many times the finger gets pointed at the fans, saying “We hope to have our fans support” Well newsflash this was an away match we were outnumbered as usual, AND STILL what a beautiful cori and coriografia we put together. Just watch here for proof: "Our season is not over with this derby. We still have a commitment to the club and the supporters to honor." Reja speaking after the game. To speak about future games when you have just lost your fourth derby out of four is not only wrong but also very disrespectful. The only worthy thing to do would have been to apologize to the lack of commitment his players showed on the pitch. He at the end of the day chose those 11 and brought on those 3 players along with the catastrophe that ensued with the substitution making. (In a derby there is no excuse for the joke that occurred when nobody knew who was coming off) With all due respect for what you did for us last year, you clearly don't have a clue what this game means to the people who live 365 days a year in that City(In the region for that matter) and have to endure the shit those f*ckers throw at us. You also clearly proved that you are not the right man to coach SS Lazio. In other games, ok, but in the derby - COME ON! Excuse upon excuse that's all I’ve heard so far. No acceptance of fault. I smell nothing but mercenaries from the players as well. Yesterday was about business. For 70 minutes, business was going well because a draw really was a favourable result. But I don't watch Lazio to see us win, lose or draw. I support Lazio to see passion and desire. It was business for Rioma as well; they needed 3 points. They got them. We can blame laser-beams and referees all day long. We didn't do the business at hand and we haven't been doing this so for 3-4 months. Moreover, where the hell were you when AS Merda was in Ukraine getting smoked in CL? Running around on the Formello joking and talking about how nice it will be to collect the salery this month? THE WHOLE SOCIETY SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND ANY SUPPORT THEY GET FROM ME OR ANYONE ELSE THIS YEAR IS A PRIVILIDGE. People travelled all over the world to see their Lazio play and this is how you repay them. It’s one thing to loose. But to loose in this manner is inexcusable. Like I said I will continue to discuss this matter on Wednesday’s show and welcome all input. For me personally the goal is to talk to the likes of our English speaking players like Lich, & Radu and give them a piece of my mind: MERCENARIES MERCENARI VA FANCULO.
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