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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 12:07:49 PM » |
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Kindly refrain from making personal attacks and insults as it degrades the quality of the forum. Further transgressions will be penalized.
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I accept. But for me, spamming and false accusations also degrade the quality of the forum. In the Fiorentina thread, please find out what I say that is offensive, that caused Aquile to state that I enjoy being horrible to people. There's nothing there at all, accept me swearing at Liverpool, which doesn't break any rules. And as for you, Aquile, stay out of my way, don't ever quote me ever again, talk to whoever you want, but not me... your nothing, absolutely nothing, of value to me, piece of.... |
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 12:54:01 PM » |
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Actually, Lazio's youth system is fairly well perceived (look, we're not a football factory per se, but we have done fairly well).
To name a few (in some shape or form) that have come out of la Primavera:
Giordano
Nesta
Franceschini
Domizzi
Di Canio
Di Biagio
Flavio Roma
DiVaio
Tiribocchi
Pinzi
Macheda.....
Not the worst record of all time. It's just too bad we can't always keep them. Losing Macheda has more to do with the unfair limitations of Italian contract law as they regard pro football agreements and youth not to mention the parasitical practices of some EPL teams than anything we could have done to keep him.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 01:11:52 PM » |
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Actually, Lazio's youth system is fairly well perceived (look, we're not a football factory per se, but we have done fairly well).
To name a few (in some shape or form) that have come out of la Primavera:
Giordano
Nesta
Franceschini
Domizzi
Di Canio
Di Biagio
Flavio Roma
DiVaio
Tiribocchi
Pinzi
Macheda.....
Not the worst record of all time. It's just too bad we can't always keep them. Losing Macheda has more to do with the unfair limitations of Italian contract law as they regard pro football agreements and youth not to mention the parasitical practices of some EPL teams than anything we could have done to keep him.
Yeah, I forgot about some of those. Good list. But regards to the current crop Imper, what do you think is going wrong, do you think any of them could really nestle themselves into our first 11 with any degree of trust? I already mentioned Barretto as probably being signed because Kozak isn't working as a signing either, or Mendicino isn't progressing like he was supposed to. Both the latter, plus Perpetuini and Tuia, do look very average indeed. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2009, 03:37:37 PM » |
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You're right Theo that the best chance sinceNesta of producing a home grown superstar (Macheda) got scooped from us. But Perpetuini and Mendocino might be useful - useful not phenomenal. Unfortunately, the problem is not Lazio's youth system but Italy's idiotic system - no reserve teams etc. Kozak scored his first goal last week, so who knows.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2009, 05:32:57 PM » |
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Kozak isn't working as a signing either, or Mendicino isn't progressing like he was supposed to. Both the latter, plus Perpetuini and Tuia, do look very average indeed.
To be fair, Delio Rossi did not give them enough opportunity to make a case. They seemed like flops late last season when Kozak and Ettore Mendicino couldn't finish but that was about.. 1.. 2 games. With a deluded squad with the lack of reinforcements we will able to see Luciani and Perpetuini a bit more than the two strikers plus Tuia from last season. Its evident that in comparison to a 19 year old Messi Ronaldo Pato Gilardino Rossi we do not have anyone of this caliber but then again not many were familiar with the name Luca Toni or Iaquinta and now they are world champions. The best thing to do after the primavera age limit is to loan them out or give them some playing time. Lotito/Tare has done this and Ballardini is not afraid to give these youngsters such responsibilities such as a key UEFA Cup Match starting spot and/or to sub in vs a champions league team away in a very defending situation. I think Ballardini is doing what he can with the youngsters and it is too early to determine if they will be a flop average or national team material in their distant future. |
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2009, 05:47:51 PM » |
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Kozak isn't working as a signing either, or Mendicino isn't progressing like he was supposed to. Both the latter, plus Perpetuini and Tuia, do look very average indeed.
To be fair, Delio Rossi did not give them enough opportunity to make a case. They seemed like flops late last season when Kozak and Ettore Mendicino couldn't finish but that was about.. 1.. 2 games. With a deluded squad with the lack of reinforcements we will able to see Luciani and Perpetuini a bit more than the two strikers plus Tuia from last season. Its evident that in comparison to a 19 year old Messi Ronaldo Pato Gilardino Rossi we do not have anyone of this caliber but then again not many were familiar with the name Luca Toni or Iaquinta and now they are world champions. The best thing to do after the primavera age limit is to loan them out or give them some playing time. Lotito/Tare has done this and Ballardini is not afraid to give these youngsters such responsibilities such as a key UEFA Cup Match starting spot and/or to sub in vs a champions league team away in a very defending situation. I think Ballardini is doing what he can with the youngsters and it is too early to determine if they will be a flop average or national team material in their distant future. I think that's spot on dude. I'm a Messi fanboy along with millions of others, and it's so easy to forget that not everyone can be a superstar player at the age of 17, or even 21. Some prove to be useful despite being late developers, those that you mentioned, and the likes of Amauri as well. I guess what doesn't help is that, as was said earlier, with Lazio's Primavera year on year doing top 3 positions at the end, it's easy to expect too much from them. |
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 02:00:26 AM » |
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However we should applause balla's decision about youth player
this is good for LAZIO not downright for ballardini
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 04:38:12 AM » |
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Kindly refrain from making personal attacks and insults as it degrades the quality of the forum. Further transgressions will be penalized.
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Thanks admin, that is why this club is great and will remain great.............bitterness and personal attacks dont bring progress.........love and community does. Thanks. |
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 06:15:32 AM » |
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We have great youth academy.
No we don't. We produce nothing but average or mediocre players. Macheda was the only one who looked to have any star potential, and we let him go. Tell me I'm wrong, go ahead, but I'm not. We have bought practically every single player in the past 20 years for use in the first team. Mendicino, Luciani, Perpetuini, what do all have in common? They get minutes and they don't even touch the ball, or in the case of the former, don't even get a shot on target. Why not wait and see how mecheda evolves b4 u judge..........just bcos he is in man untd u think he is a star...................you seem to have nothing positive about the club u claim to support. Aquile, look at Anti_Roma, somebody else who actually knows about this club. Aquile, seriously, you are such a fucking dick. How I wish there was a magic wand to make you disappear to the fucking Liverpool forums or whatever... do not ever challenge my integrity as a Lazio fan, asshole. Have you been to a game? Surprise surprise, you haven't. In fact, you were the only person on the entire goddamn forum that didn't know Del Nero played at LB against Palermo, you are a clueless idiot who doesn't even watch games most weeks. I won't even go on about how your a fucking spammer, taking four posts to make one point which you can't even think of yourself, you just copy everyone else.And how can we forget your quotes from goal.com, clearly all of us are completely unable to access goal.com ourselves, so to get your post count up, you do that, then quote yourself and make a point. DICK. Seriously, asswipe, don't even go there - I, along with Latius, have merely debated with you about how the Serie A Table doesn't lie, and you go accusing me of taking pleasure of being mean. Well I do not enjoy having a go like this with most people. I won't name them, but there about 10 to 20 regular posters on this website that I really enjoy reading and discussing things with. Total ***** like you though, you ain't worth the steam off my piss. I don't need to explain to you why I rate Macheda, you ain't worth it - but I will. Lotito was in a blind panic to keep Macheda when Ferguson was sniffing around, and he tried desperately to convince him to stay - hell, it's your fucking league, so you know what Macheda did on his debut and subsequent weeks. Macheda can't get game time for obvious reasons, but it's clear, if Lazio are anything to you but a part -time hobby. which they ain't, you'd know that our Primavera has hardly ever produced anything but poor players over the years. Tit. I sincerely hope the moderator is reading all the abuses and insults...........I want to hear from the moderator here. Good for you, muppet. I want you to piss off. Bro, stop it plz, i didn't get it,what problem with you?, we are all S.S Lazio fans, there are no point to offense someone in this forum |
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 06:22:35 AM » |
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Bro, stop it plz, i didn't get it,what problem with you?, we are all S.S Lazio fans, there are no point to offense someone in this forum
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2009, 08:25:07 AM » |
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Can't we all just get along?
...ok, you dislike each other, duly noted........let's move on.
Forza Lazio!
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