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« on: February 24, 2009, 08:33:20 AM »

Mysterious, because I don't get why we signed him.

The only thing I know about him is that he is Czech, 19, and that we signed him from a club called Opava. Oh, and he's a striker.

I also know he is a tall lad, bloody huge! Possibly around the 6"7 mark, although I'm not exactly sure.
Anyway, a question. He sounds like he can offer us something different to what we are used to i.e flick ons or holding the ball up, so why doesnt get he get a few mins here or there? The early Coppa Italia rounds were a perfect chance for us to field somebody like him, even if it was just for the last ten mins. I don't think he has even made an appearance for us? I'd far rather have a look at him then see I*****i come on, which aside from the game Lecce, (or it could be argued, the Marseille game  ) he ain't worth bothering with.

I think of Fernando Foriestieri, a highly talented player on the books of Genoa who last season was given times by Siena to impress and he did. It surely wouldn't hurt to do the same with Libor, espeically since Rossi admitted that he has no players to "hold the ball up".. well you do, Delio, but you ain't using him.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 08:58:24 AM »

He is bloody second Jan Koler. He is a good header something that Lazio is lacking for years. He is in our primavera and score at every second game. A rising star. Actually our primavera are first at the moment I think in our division. With our young players we should be proud. I also don't think that he need to get the first 11, maybe at some friendlies but he must be in that primavera team to learn Italian calcio and probably the language and the hole concept of the Italian football.

I think we buy someone at the winter mercato. Pajtim Casami from Liverpool also a young boy and he is playing for the primavera too.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 09:12:05 AM »

Currently Libor is playing with the Lazio primavera and has scored as well from what i've read from Lazialita. I wish there was a way to know who the top scorers are for Primavera to get an idea who's up an coming and who should be tried.

I did find it odd as he's listed as a team for the official team and was regarded as one of our summer purchases and he was never featured in any games including friendlies with the team. He didn't even come from a big czech team either.

If he's 6'7 then he would be a great solution for the player we need to win headers and maybe .. just maybe actually score on a corner for once.

Delio is an idiot and needs to try new talent. He sticks with the same players who give dismal performances and seem indispensable. If we can't win for 7 games maybe it's time to try something new ???

Why not give Tuia a chance in defense where we're lacking ? Or Faraoni in the midfield ? or Mendicino instead of bringing in Inzaghi in the last 10 minutes ?

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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:15:52 AM »

We have paid for him 1,8 million dolar and when I heard him first time ( when he signed ), I did some research. He scored 11 goals last year for his former team and 3 goals in 8 matches for U-19 Czech. He is young and can be in our plan. I think if he is not considered in squad for now, he should go another serie a team as loan. I agree with what Jofo said, he should learn Italian football conditions.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 09:18:43 AM »

Currently Libor is playing with the Lazio primavera and has scored as well from what i've read from Lazialita. I wish there was a way to know who the top scorers are for Primavera to get an idea who's up an coming and who should be tried.

I did find it odd as he's listed as a team for the official team and was regarded as one of our summer purchases and he was never featured in any games including friendlies with the team. He didn't even come from a big czech team either.

If he's 6'7 then he would be a great solution for the player we need to win headers and maybe .. just maybe actually score on a corner for once.

Delio is an idiot and needs to try new talent. He sticks with the same players who give dismal performances and seem indispensable. If we can't win for 7 games maybe it's time to try something new ???

Why not give Tuia a chance in defense where we're lacking ? Or Faraoni in the midfield ? or Mendicino instead of bringing in Inzaghi in the last 10 minutes ?



That's exactly my point. Mendicino got a few mins against Liverpool and a few seconds against Fiorentina.. but surely it's more beneficial to give him at least 10 minutes instead of Simeone Inept. I feel like Lazio are the only club not to take risks in this regard - it's not even a risk, I'd call it 'common sense' to give our exciting talents some consistent amount of times - it can only help them, rather then harm us.
With regards to Tuia, Rozenhal would be a perfect role model for him, that would be swell if they could play together  
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 09:34:31 AM »

Currently Libor is playing with the Lazio primavera and has scored as well from what i've read from Lazialita. I wish there was a way to know who the top scorers are for Primavera to get an idea who's up an coming and who should be tried.

I did find it odd as he's listed as a team for the official team and was regarded as one of our summer purchases and he was never featured in any games including friendlies with the team. He didn't even come from a big czech team either.

If he's 6'7 then he would be a great solution for the player we need to win headers and maybe .. just maybe actually score on a corner for once.

Delio is an idiot and needs to try new talent. He sticks with the same players who give dismal performances and seem indispensable. If we can't win for 7 games maybe it's time to try something new ???

Why not give Tuia a chance in defense where we're lacking ? Or Faraoni in the midfield ? or Mendicino instead of bringing in Inzaghi in the last 10 minutes ?



That's exactly my point. Mendicino got a few mins against Liverpool and a few seconds against Fiorentina.. but surely it's more beneficial to give him at least 10 minutes instead of Simeone Inept. I feel like Lazio are the only club not to take risks in this regard - it's not even a risk, I'd call it 'common sense' to give our exciting talents some consistent amount of times - it can only help them, rather then harm us.
With regards to Tuia, Rozenhal would be a perfect role model for him, that would be swell if they could play together  

Totally agree except for Rozehnal being a role model for him. I think Rozy is good but not in any position to be someones role model. I wish we brought nesta back to coach the backline and especially make Tuia his understudy.

I think thats why we need a new coach, Delio isn't willing to take risks and try new tactics/formations. I was hoping to see Kozak in the liverpool game as well .. hell he threw in half the primavera team in the end .. why not the most recent transfer to see how he adapts ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 09:36:58 AM »

Delio is an idiot and needs to try new talent. He sticks with the same players who give dismal performances and seem indispensable. If we can't win for 7 games maybe it's time to try something new ???

Why not give Tuia a chance in defense where we're lacking ? Or Faraoni in the midfield ? or Mendicino instead of bringing in Inzaghi in the last 10 minutes ?

It is about vision of Rossi. He is not creative and is now aware of many things. You are right, but I guess you dont expect Rossi to give chance to youngs. He is trying to save his ass for now. I hope new coach will be optimistic about young players. We can buy new players by spending money but until where? We need to give enough importance to youngs, certainly some of those are really capable enough to play in Lazio.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 10:21:25 AM »

Kozak has never steped on the field for Lazio, but he should have been given the opportunity at some point this season especially when Inzaghi has. Look what Balotelli did for Inter last season during the closing stages, he was superb at only 18. Tuia played briefly in the pre season match at Liverpool and frankly im dissapointed with that he has not featured this season. The defence in general has been shambolic, 37 goals conceded in the league from 25 games is not good enough to get the squad into Europe. That being said, why not give the lad a chance because if he does not play where will he get experience and confidence from to become a top player. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 01:03:40 PM »

Kozak is being compared to a Luca Toni type striker, he is gaining many supporters, but he's way too young to play with the big team. It's a bad idea to expose young players to that kind of pressure when they aren't ready, unless you want to destroy them early. (anyone who's watched the Leafs over the last 20 years can attest to what happens when an organization doesn't properly manage it's youth). Leave Kozak to develop where he is, in a few years we'll see.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 01:22:23 PM »

In the summer get rid of Siviglia and Inzaghi for example and promote Tuia, Mendicino or Kozak to the first team (Rather have Mendicino then Inzaghi on the bench). Would love to see some Romans represent Lazio.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 05:46:16 AM »

I don't think we should let some 19 or 18 year old kid to go in the first team. The experience show me that in a time this will kill them. Either they can't stand the pressure or they will taste the glory too soon and become another mediocre players (ex Nani from Man. this kid is totally lost). I would go more with the variant to loan them in some seria B club to get some Calcio experience. Leave him one or two seasons, look if he improve or not and if you can use him.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 12:49:30 PM »

I don't think there should be an age restriction. How many players started off in the big leagues and developed quickly (messi, g. rossi, c. ronaldo, giovinco, pato, paloschi to name a few and i'm sure the list can go on..). These players developed quickly. I think players need to have a certain skill level and maturity and should be taken right away. Of course, Cassano who was taken at a young age still hasn't developed maturity.

Some times the best way to develop quickly is to immerse yourself with the pros. Carizzo is 24 years old, he shouldn't need more time .. he should already be showing signs of great talent unless he's a late bloomer.

I don't see a problem with throwing Tuia or Kozak in the occasional remaining minutes to see how they respond.

Diakite was tried at a young age and I think he did fairly well. I'd rather see Diakite at 21 in our D than Siviglia who's turning 36.

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 05:08:03 PM »

In the summer get rid of Siviglia and Inzaghi for example and promote Tuia, Mendicino or Kozak to the first team (Rather have Mendicino then Inzaghi on the bench). Would love to see some Romans represent Lazio.

Spot on i think this is exactly what's needed 
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 02:18:12 AM »

Simply,maybe Rossi don't like Kozak, such as Foggia and Luis Jimenez cases.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 05:12:20 AM »

Simply,maybe Rossi don't like Kozak, such as Foggia and Luis Jimenez cases.



He hasnt luxury like that . If a player seems promising and you paid 1.8 $ for him, coach should give chance to him and try to use him. However, I dont think that rossi is doing so much for Libor and including other youngs. Thats why he is not a coach for us, he doesnt do what he has to do, he doesnt give team his all.
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