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i would sum it up simpler than that. I really only got shit twice (i got looks from many) one was a cart salesman and the other sold prints out side the ruins; who said "all lazio fans have their noses pointed up..... lazio fans have short hands a deep pockets". back at monté mario(just out side the city) some one left a door open for me so I could watch the game
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la lazio č una fede č noi siamo i suoi discepoli! Forza Lazio!!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010, 05:13:58 AM » |
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riomers lefties? how do we explain BISL? or the fact that they are routinely present in the CN when Livorno visits?
Does that somehow render my view null and void? Of course there are differences and divides between the supporters of each club as well. Boh. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 07:22:12 AM » |
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^^ No not at all, don't misunderstand me. That was mainly aimed at providing a nuance. I never really do well accepting absolutes. riomers have no political affiliations, left or right, because it would imply that they can read past an elementary level.  An aquaintance of mine in Rome and a huge Laziale (naturally!) put it to me in this interesting way. Lazio is Rome's Chelsea. I suppose what he meant, because I know little about Chelsea, is that the area of the city where they were formed (the very wealthy prati), the identity of founding members (mainly military officers), the chosen colours and emblem are decidedly imperial, cosmopolitan as well as philosophical give us a gerarchic image. Symbols are important, so are names and colours. We have the symbol of the imperial eagle and they chose the shewolf: Livy: "Some writers think that Larentia, from her unchaste life, had got the nickname of "She-wolf" amongst the shepherds, and that this was the origin of the marvellous story." They chose the symbol of a great sheppard whore. |
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Some writers think that Larentia, from her unchaste life, had got the nickname of "She-wolf" amongst the shepherds, and that this was the origin of the marvellous story. Livy
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 02:02:03 PM » |
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^^ No not at all, don't misunderstand me. That was mainly aimed at providing a nuance. I never really do well accepting absolutes.
I thought so, just wondered. Hence "boh". An aquaintance of mine in Rome and a huge Laziale (naturally!) put it to me in this interesting way. Lazio is Rome's Chelsea. I suppose what he meant, because I know little about Chelsea, is that the area of the city where they were formed (the very wealthy prati), the identity of founding members (mainly military officers), the chosen colours and emblem are decidedly imperial, cosmopolitan as well as philosophical give us a gerarchic image.
I know nought about Chelsea either but your idea behind the comparison makes perfect sense to me. Personally I would not try to marry imperial and cosmopolitan ideals, though, and I cannot believe it was the purpose of the founding members either. I do not think they were American, eh? Rather, I have always likened the chosen symbol and the colours to be an amalgamation of cultural-historical identity and the universal (i.e European) athletic ideal. You probably get the idea. Symbols are important, so are names and colours. We have the symbol of the imperial eagle and they chose the shewolf:
Livy: "Some writers think that Larentia, from her unchaste life, had got the nickname of "She-wolf" amongst the shepherds, and that this was the origin of the marvellous story."
They chose the symbol of a great sheppard whore.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 02:36:10 PM » |
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I have always likened the chosen symbol and the colours to be an amalgamation of cultural-historical identity and the universal (i.e European) athletic ideal. You probably get the idea. You're absolutely right. I meant cosmopolitan in the sense of not being provincial. For all their talk, the typical riomer, like tottiey is a small minded trog whose bredth is about half as long as his member. That is hitting below the belt, innit? Totti would probably nod frantically in agreement anyway. why is it low? That's the reality of their symbol in the context they use it . Btw, as a symbol for a fc it appeared first in Avellino in Italy (to the best of my knowledge). |
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Some writers think that Larentia, from her unchaste life, had got the nickname of "She-wolf" amongst the shepherds, and that this was the origin of the marvellous story. Livy
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You're absolutely right. I meant cosmopolitan in the sense of not being provincial. For all their talk, the typical riomer, like tottiey is a small minded trog whose bredth is about half as long as his member.
Ah, I see. why is it low? That's the reality of their symbol in the context they use it . Btw, as a symbol for a fc it appeared first in Avellino in Italy (to the best of my knowledge).
Well, obviously this is ruining my joke altogether but I was thinking along the lines of taking one interpretation of the myth of Acca Larentia and harnessing it to serve derogatory purposes of Laziali. See, I always lived under the assumption the myth of the Roman foundation was the context in Merda's usage of the symbol. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2010, 03:33:26 PM » |
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Well, obviously this is ruining my joke altogether but I was thinking along the lines of taking one interpretation of the myth of Acca Larentia and harnessing it to serve derogatory purposes of Laziali. See, I always lived under the assumption the myth of the Roman foundation was the context in Merda's usage of the symbol. The wolf as a symbol of Rome is bsed on myth. Livy is referring to this fact and even giving us a sense for the genesis of the myth that a shewolf raised the two twins. The eagle was always the symbol of Rome, cognizantly by the Romans themselves. The shewolf is a silly myth, and the Romans themselves recognized it as nothing more. |
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Some writers think that Larentia, from her unchaste life, had got the nickname of "She-wolf" amongst the shepherds, and that this was the origin of the marvellous story. Livy
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2010, 03:48:16 PM » |
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Well, obviously this is ruining my joke altogether but I was thinking along the lines of taking one interpretation of the myth of Acca Larentia and harnessing it to serve derogatory purposes of Laziali. See, I always lived under the assumption the myth of the Roman foundation was the context in Merda's usage of the symbol. The wolf as a symbol of Rome is bsed on myth. Livy is referring to this fact and even giving us a sense for the genesis of the myth that a shewolf raised the two twins. The eagle was always the symbol of Rome, cognizantly by the Romans themselves. The shewolf is a silly myth, and the Romans themselves recognized it as nothing more. Yes, of course, I am not denying the authority of Titus Livius in this regard, but there are various interpretations for the genesis of the myth as well. Anyway, I see I misunderstood your reference to the context of the symbol, so, I concur. |
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2010, 10:56:15 AM » |
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fucking sterotypes. I'm leftist and I'm a Lazio fan.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 06:55:01 AM » |
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Well, I have been told that the most Romans actualy support Roma while Lazio is mostley supported by people living in the Lazio region.
That's spot on. It's a well known fact, actually. No it isn't. It's true Roma are more popular in the city but the vast majority of Lazio fans are from the city itself too. There aren't that many people in the countryside compared with the city, even though we do outnumber them there. I think that "fact" was something started by riommanisti themselves to give some sort of credence to their claims that we are burini. Let us not forget they were twinned with those dogs from Napoli for 11 years. |
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 08:14:22 AM » |
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^^^ I've said this many times, but nobody seems to believe me. They probably outnumber us in the city 5-3, it's not that dramatic. It's also well known that many non-Romans (Italian and non-Italian) who come to the city, often become Roma fans in order to fit in since they carry the city's name. It's also the reason most souvenir stands carry mostly Roma gear - the average idiot who visits Rome and wants to buy something as a souvenir sees the apparel with Roma on it and is much more likely to buy it because it's all the same to them.
Anyway, who cares how many riomers there are? Coackroaches outnumber humans...so what?
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2010, 08:55:06 AM » |
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^^^ I've said this many times, but nobody seems to believe me. They probably outnumber us in the city 5-3, it's not that dramatic. It's also well known that many non-Romans (Italian and non-Italian) who come to the city, often become Roma fans in order to fit in since they carry the city's name. It's also the reason most souvenir stands carry mostly Roma gear - the average idiot who visits Rome and wants to buy something as a souvenir sees the apparel with Roma on it and is much more likely to buy it because it's all the same to them.
Anyway, who cares how many riomers there are? Coackroaches outnumber humans...so what?
I can assure you, you're correct. I'm from the countryside myself. There aren't even enough people out there to justify the riommer argument in the first place. We do mostly support Lazio, though there are still a decent number of Roma fans. Can't comment on what it's like north of Rome but I guess it'll be more of the same. Don't fall for the romanista propaganda. Saying Lazio fans are peasants is as accurate as saying we are all fascists. Re. the merch, you're spot on there too. I had a good friend who went to Rome for a week. Showed me photos of himself around Rome wearing one of those jumpers. Giallorosso are the colours of the city. People are idiots but what can you do. They think it's ASR merchandise, they buy it - Forza Roma. Then you take into account the fact that somehow all the American university students who go to Rome become romanisti. Yet after all this, which club has more abbonati??? I'll give you a clue. They wear blue and white.  |
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2010, 09:18:42 AM » |
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^^^ I've said this many times, but nobody seems to believe me. They probably outnumber us in the city 5-3, it's not that dramatic.
I agree, and I said so before. I am not wrong to say the centre of Rome is mostly Red, Caput Mundi, and you are not wrong Imper to say what you quoted. Also I agree, enough of the pointless debate, it's not an important issue at all to be honest. |
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2010, 03:49:58 PM » |
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It's also well known that many non-Romans (Italian and non-Italian) who come to the city, often become Roma fans in order to fit in since they carry the city's name. It's also the reason most souvenir stands carry mostly Roma gear - the average idiot who visits Rome and wants to buy something as a souvenir sees the apparel with Roma on it and is much more likely to buy it because it's all the same to them.
Which reminds me, I fall victim to this. When I visited Rome when I was 13, I had barely cared for watching club competition. I wanted something as a souvenir so i got a cheap light asr jacket from some gypsy. Im waiting for my chiminea to go back up this summer so I can put it in. I'm not even sure that there was Lazio merchandising in their little wagon. |
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2010, 03:52:42 PM » |
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Which reminds me, I fall victim to this. When I visited Rome when I was 13, I had barely cared for watching club competition. I wanted something as a souvenir so i got a cheap light asr jacket from some gypsy. Im waiting for my chiminea to go back up this summer so I can put it in. I'm not even sure that there was Lazio merchandising in their little wagon.
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